TV / Radio Tokuyama Daigoro wo Dare ga Koroshita ka? (2016/07/16 - 2016/09/24)

@MadBunny

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if fixing the school grade wasn't enough to guarantee a spot in top universities, then fixing the entrance exam score probably is the answer. Sugai Yuuka could asked the principal to write a great recommendation letter for her.


here is a screencap of episode 1



if the police discover about the Tokuyama's body, the students worried about this incident will take a toll on their future.

 

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I'm sure Neru's sister is connected to killer. Also maybe storyline will let us know smth more about Zuumin/Sugai families. Also i'm still thinking about Berisa (she had motive). I don't understand why fake security can easily enter their school in day/night time (so maybe he is on the same side with principal).
Also, where is a journalist? There is still a lot of qustions and i have no idea how they gonna put it in last 5 episodes. If Akimoto really wants to make smth as perfect drama with an interesting storyline and exciting ending there is should be the second season. (And Keyakizaka deserves it). This drama has really a big potential, but I'm afraid of silly ending.

 

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If we want to go for a theory further-fetched than a twin, what if Tokuyama somehow made a wax replica of himself? It sounds stupid and would probably be extraordinarily hard but if our best theory is really the cliche twin trope, I would much rather prefer this.

 

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Wax replica is so stiff, it's hard to put him inside the locker from his sitting position. I thought that might be wax replica too, but I consider the stench and the flexibility of his body, it's a real one unless it's another man died but they put mask of Tokuyama's face.

 

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It's possible that only the visible parts were wax and all of the joints and what-not are something else. As for the stench, well some one is clearly going into the room when no one else is there to set up cameras, set up a dead body etc. so we can guess that they could have sprayed the body with something to make it smell as if it were rotting. And about the flexibility, well rigor mortis sets in a couple of hours after death so getting Toyuyama into the locker easily is plausible, though I'm not too sure how easy getting it out would be. Considering that when the body is moved in the earlier episodes when rigor mortis should be in full effect it doesn't seem nearly stiff enough, and by the third day there will be some fluid leakage from orifices; it doesn't appear to be that similar to an actual dead body. Of course it's only an idol drama so I'm not sure how accurate we can expect it to be... (that's always the biggest problem when you want to figure out a mystery in a movie or show, you never know how far, accurate or convoluted the script is going to get).

I can see it being another man with a Tokuyama mask, but then the question would be how he (or whoever put it there) knew the girls wouldn't go to the police. They would easily be able to figure out that it wasn't Tokuyama and then a whole investigation with tons of questions would be opened up. It seems pretty stupid to set up a murder scene with the intentions of using it to torment the class without knowing if the girls will call the police. On a side note, I think he knew the girls wouldn't go to the police because of some dirt he has on a few of them (e.g the list).

In the end, if the body is a fake, the question is, why? I can't see it being only to torment those around him, as the possibility of police involvement could never be certain. It's not to disappear, then nothing would happen after they found him dead. Money? Possibly, though I'm not too sure how that would work.

Another possibility is that the murderer is different than the person who wants to torment the girls. You never know, maybe Berika found Tokuyama's phone and decided to have a little fun? For all we know, the murderer is long gone and didn't care about police involvement at all (though of course the girls investigating is a preferable scenario). I'd say this is unlikely, but it seems to offer a few solutions to some questions. Although, I feel like I may be forgetting some information that makes this theory impossible.

 

It's funny to reach this thread and it's all tagged for spoilers lol

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@SaikouTan as much as your theory is interesting, I think assuming the simplest explanation is the correct one seems more plausible, I wouldn't assume at first that the scientific inaccuracies somehow are connected to your theory, it could just be that for the sake of artistic convenience some details were disregarded...

 

And... here's episode 7!!! \ :v / This is probably our fastest release yet lol. Enjoy~


Direct link, stream, softsub download:
http://myaidol.net/2016/08/24/tokuyama-daigoro-wo-dare-ga-koroshitaka-07/

 

As I thought, we're into next arc of story.

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For once, I deem the class consensus of secrecy has done more harm than good this time. More so when Daishiro could be the collateral victim.

Thank you for the subs(again)!

 

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Hmm, so based on reactions every single faculty member is somehow involved in the "school secret", so I herby officially kill the prostituion theory.
You did us well, au revoir.

Some thoughts...
Yuichanzu did well, lol. HiddenCamara is back aswell.
Hirate talking to Tokuyama bro was a tad bit obvious but nobody seemed to take notice?
The Sugai scene was kinda weird too. At first she wanted to open up and then she suddenly snaps? Totally out of character but kinda hot
I also hope Police Officer returns, he is so far my favourite non student character.

I also vote for Season 2. Anyone has info on ratings?

 

Based on every major KK46 song hitting number one, I'd say the ratings are good!

 

Having watched episode 7, yes, it has completely changed arcs now.

It has gone from "who killed him?" to "why was he killed?".

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I don't think it matters who specifically plunged the knife now, It is obviously related to a seeming prostitution ring, and obviously he was being just like his brother said, good, honourable, and wanted to expose it to the press - He managed to get information, and in seeking that information he was killed, likely by the principal or kanzaki. He may have 'seemed' a lech, but he wasn't the sort to have sex with underage girls. So what I'm thinking is, he died protecting the very class who is now trying to find out who killed him, and why.

 

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That's my theory, too. But people here now think that it's something related to grades.

 

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Maybe, but it seems odd that the principal was stroking Sugai's hair in a rather sexual manner in the ep 8, preview. Frankly, none of our students seem too bothered about learning! Also, if students were paying for good grades, where is Sugai (although she has rich parents) going to get 20 million yen from? (£15,000).

As has been mentioned, this is an idol drama, so it's quite possible that it will end up being something like grades, but in reality it would be drugs, sex or human trafficking. I'm quite happy whatever it is though, I love this show and will continue to!

 

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Yeah, a prostitution ring makes more sense.

TBH, I will be kind of underwhelmed if it's really about grades. I mean, they have a yakuza-like fake security guard killing poeple over grades? Eh...

 

I don't have much info, but I do have a list of the TV ratings of the first six eps, from 2channel. Most 2channel comment is from the ""nyaa, nyaa, bad ratings!" point of view, so I guess these numbers aren't great, but I don't think they include the Amazon Prime stream, which comes out first and is likely to be somewhat popular:

ep1 - 1.4%
ep2 - 0.5%
ep3 - 0.8%
ep4 - 0.6%
ep5 - 1.5%
ep6 - 1.2%

But of course, the real purpose of a show like this is probably to increase popularity and therefore CD sales, so @Christoff522 has a point that CD sales are some indication of success.

Another interesting point from a 2channel post, which I will spoiler since it is a surprising (to me) speculation.

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"Tokuyama is dead. The mystery is which Tokuyama."

 

Oh, interesting question. Didn't think about it at all.

 

I agree with you, I think Amazon Prime will be the ratings grabber, Tokuyama is on TV around 1am in Japan, Nobody is going to be staying up to watch it a week later when they can watch it on Amazon, without breaks.

I have access to Japanese TV (thanks to the iptv) and I checked the latest TV episode which came out Saturday/Sunday and Episode 7 still hasn't screened, they're still on Episode 6!

 

On the 2ch spoiler speculation

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Oh jeez the photo of Tokuyama with a student... which one was that? Oh jeez maybe the brother was somehow involved?.... I need the next episode D:

Thank you to aidol as always for the subs

 

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one thing im worried about is what the fake secarity guard is gonna do with tokuyama's twin and will Techi tell everyone that Yuuka is connected with this school secret. Ive also seen people talking about it being grades and in my opinion it could still be that 'sex thing' because of watching preview of ep 8 and the way the principle was stroking Yuuka's hair. It might just be his personalite but who knows? And was it Yuuka who said 'Please help me' at the very start of preview of ep 8?(But i loved the bit where Yuuka went from uneasy mode to threatern mode. looked so cute!)

can't wait for next episode to be released and subbed! Thank you aidol