Single AKB48 56th [Sustainable] (2019/09/18)

Discussion in 'AKB48 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. marioworldakb

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    Another forgettable aside song for me. Looking back teacher teacher wasn't that bad, at least it was catchy lol
     
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  2. kanjo

    kanjo Stage48 Moderator Staff Member Stage48 Moderator

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    I remember when the SSK was officially cancelled I had one positive reaction "maybe this means Yuiri can get the push she deserves"
    I've always felt members who withdraw from the SSK are pushed aside and Yuiri is one of the members who suffers the most from this.
    Based on her popularity which developed without being given much spotlight at all, she should clearly be one of AKB's faces.
    Now that not everything is about the SSK that can happen, and this single is confirming that for me.
     
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  3. SunnyHighland

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    Oh another MIA (presumed dead) account resurrected. [hehe]

    Lol, I do actually like Teacher Teacher. Will wait for the MV for Sustainable.
     
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  4. Britney M. Carey

    Britney M. Carey Kenkyuusei

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    I don't like Jurina but totally agree with this
     
  5. LxC280

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    Round 2 of 8
    Okada Nana 22/35
    Oguri Yui 18/35
    Murayama Yuiri 7/40
    Okabe Rin 7/35
    Kashiwagi Yuki 1/32
    Sakaguchi Nagisa 1/35
    Kuranoo Narumi 1/35
    Kubo Satone 1/26
     
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  6. wlerin

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    Only in calendar age. People mature at different rates (both emotionally and physically), and Jurina has been under extreme pressure since a very young age, which also accelerates the aging process. And besides that we've also seen her far more and far longer than the other two, so she's also "old" in that sense. Berin is less than half of Jurina's 48G age.
     
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  7. LarcKen

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    That and she was already looked like a high school girl back when she joined in 2008. Like, everybody in this forum back then just can't get over that she's actually 11
     
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  8. Peach Anmitsu

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    Youre not annoying! Youre right. Autocorrect got me, or lack of sleep :p:hehe:
     
  9. bonjourmarlene

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    I agree that Jurina looked older than her actual age back then but I think she still looks very young now. I'm born 97 as well, and I know that Asians generally look younger than white people, but a lot of people age-guess me around 18, and I think Jurina looks younger than me.

    I think a lot of it really has to do with the fact that we're so used to her - she's been part of the group longer than some of us have been fans (myself included). The fact that they have been part of the group for so long seems to trick us into thinking they're old. Yuihan is five years older than Jurina (and less than a month younger than Miichan). Macharin is also younger than Jurina.

    Then again, Naachan is pretty much exactly 8 months younger than Jurina, but Naachan has a more mature vibe to me and because of Jurina's cutesy idol behaviour, I sometimes think she's younger than Naachan (who is more mature and serious behaved). Although age is an objective thing, it can be perceived quite subjectively.
     
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  10. nevergiveupboy

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    OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    EVERYTHING WORTH THE WAIT!

    My type of song, love every minute of it!
    I love this way more than any of their recent previous single! This typical classic AKB song, urge can't wait to listen to the HQ version

    Their costume reminded me of Gingham check's costume! :)
     
  11. Iz*One48

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    The talk about Jurina reminded me how in the post acchan Mayuyu is considered as old generation while Paruru is considered as new generation although they are of similar age.

    Is it kind of interesting that the talk about Jurina mature look is as old as Jurina mature look (in 48G age).
     
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  12. amimaru

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    jurina's face is the heisei pictograph for the word "old" so yea
     
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  13. Britney M. Carey

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    I guess it that stems from the fact that Mayuyu debuted as a 3rd gen member before Paruru (a 9th gen member)
     
  14. Peach Anmitsu

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    I agree. You can tell Yuki isnt 18 anymore, but she doesnt look so old it is odd she is there (She did write in the calligraphy contest in AKBingo she wanted to be an eternal idol forever! ) Jurina was so young when she joined she is still not amongst the eldest. Some that have joined way later are her age or older!! That is the only time I am amazed how young she is because she has been there for such a long time I am used to seeing her even amongst the golden gen.

    I think they all look fabulous. Jurina and Yuki both are two who seem to try to represent smiling, welcoming idols.
     
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  15. patapataful

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    The song is nice, but a little bit to bland for me. I will final judge after a radio rip.
    But I am happy to see Moeka at the 0 front<3
    This senbatsu is really nice. I hope they keep these 18nin or 16 min line up more often!
     
  16. Trinu

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    I discovered the replay button in billibi (or whatever it’s spelled) and spent the morning with the song.

    Hooked!
     
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  17. welp

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    Yahagi's case reminded me of the case of a BNK's member, Cake. She was caught dating and faced a very tough dilemma. Fans knew she could not admit to dating, they knew that, if they were in her shoes, they too would not be able to admit yet, they were disappointed that she was dishonest and denied. Fans did not want to hear the truth yet, hated to hear the lie. To keep silent would be deemed indirect admission so, it was not really the third choice.

    By lying, she could preserve most of her tanoshi/kamioshi who were blind enough to eat up whatever lie she spitted yet, she lost most of nioshi/sanoshi, those who liked her enough to shake hand with her albeit not many times.

    It was stupid of the agency to not be able to see it was not simply about dating. Being perceived as dishonest is a serious blow and she may never be able to amend the trust issue. Will you pay for merches and handshake tickets of an idol you doubt if she is sincere when she says she likes you?

    So, only working hard in handshake counted? Working hard in other areas, theater, practice room, in elsewhere behind the scene don't? You agree that AKB should be handshake idol, huh? Do you believe this is how AKB can fight back 46 cousins and perform in Tokyo Dome again? Do you think this is how they can compete in international market next to K-pop? I prefer BNK48's way of senbatsu selection. Anyone who is kinda popular, working hard for the group in her own way and befitting the song has a chance to stand in the center.

    SNS follower numbers? If this is AKS' interpretation on public attraction, ugh. My opinion is to choose someone who can magnet non-fan viewers' eyes or anyone close to that. And, certainly, Yahagi and Okada couldn't be that girl, no idea about Oguri. Yahagi couldn't dance and Okada lacked the vivaciousness, solemn.

    What's useful about her voice when there was no solo line? Was there any "lead note" to sing? Besides, she couldn't dance.

    Rely too much on Nana? I thought she had centered 1 title song in total.

    You thought it was nice idea to shrink the size of fandom? What a brilliant idea this is. For AKB's fans to be more accepting of dating like K-pop ones, AKB will also need to market itself like K-pop. Maybe, starting from canceling handshake and gearing more to female demographic.

    J Expo in Thailand held twice yearly. Perhaps, they will join the second round?
     
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  18. bonjourmarlene

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    People who think that idols have romantic interest in their fans and that them dating means that she likes her fans any less than she did before is simply delusional and a bit crazy. I personally think that the girls' safety matters more than anything else and to be honest, I think that they're better off not having those crazy derailed fans who believe their idol is actually into them. Yes, it's money, but we've had quite a couple of stalking incidents, not to mention the NGT scandal and how much it affected the girls mentally.
     
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  19. Jurinavenclaw

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    This is probably the first time or at least the first in a long time that members with good handshake numbers are placed in the front row. Its just nice to know that there's an actual tangible reason that fans can easily understand as basis for management's selection.

    Besides, having good handshake records is a sign a member is at least good enough in getting fans support.

    A lot of times management is stubborn with their pushes regardless whether its working or not.

    Its just nice to see for a change that those who actually delivered good results are rewarded in a management chosen senbatsu.

    And regarding with competing with Nogi, its not even about Nogi members being superior over AKB members. Its simply the fact that AKB is not deemed as fresh or interesting as before which is a natural thing to happen. Putting a fresh face like Moeka in front, flanked by two relatively newer gens, Nana and Yuiyui (they aren't exactly new but they weren't part of the golden era so thr public are probably not very familiar with them), is actually a good move to spark some interest from non-fans.

    And why are we talking about competing with KPop again? International market? JPop artists in general don't seem to put as much effort or interest on being popular internationally compared to the effort put in by KPop artists. Why should they? Japan already has the 2nd biggest music industry in the world.
     
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  20. wlerin

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    Disagree with him all you like (and I do, mostly) but he has a right to post as much as you. If his posts bother you that much then block him.
     
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