Single AKB48 56th [Sustainable] (2019/09/18)

Discussion in 'AKB48 News & Releases' started by ForrestFuller, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. nokoru

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  2. Jurinavenclaw

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    From: https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/d/2019-09-17/


    Well it ranked 1st today and definitely secured the million sales streak.

    I like how we no longer do the "will it break the million sales streak" thingy.. then again, the million in a week streak was already broken.
     
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  3. theobserver

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    yup the streak seems sustainable [hehe]
     
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  4. lionel90

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    Slightly better than Jiwaru 1st day.

    I guess Moeka secured her senbatsu spot and is good for another center.
    The stars are well aligned upon her
     
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  5. Zerase

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    1.3M :shocku:

    I guess we can postpone the "decline" talk for now
     
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  6. AnToNa

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    Not to be that kind of guy, but there was no summer single, no SSK was held this year and the Handshake dates for this single stretches until the end of year which means this single counts as fall single so I was expecting around 1.5M from Oricon or 1.6M BB (not SSK number obvs). At least it's still 1M+, so Aki-P's earning AKB is indeed sustainable.
     
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  7. Arbios

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    i expected the good sales since it's been months since Jiwaru Days,but i'm really glad the sales are good with an akb center
     
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  8. Sailor Miyawaki

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    i dont think the center really effects sales much, akb or not, doesn't impact on people wanting to do HS with members which is the biggest sales driver by far
     
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  9. LxC280

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    But, then why 11Gatsu and Jabaja sales are suck?
     
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  10. Arbios

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    i know that but this is good think for moeka,since i remember Jabaja struggling a bit and that was the last single where an akb girl centered(actually it's teacher teacher but that was an election single and the sales are guaranteed to be good)
     
  11. Aka

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    It feels like it was yesterday that people were discussing the sales of AKB's singles and how it was Mayuyu's fault. Fortunately, we all understand now that sales mean shit these days.
     
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  12. David61

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    that's only if people consider the increase to be due to centre effect which it doesn't seem so if things are looked at with a little more depth, according to estimates a lot of girls increased their sales from hs a lot which can be seen in their increase in sold out slots too, whereas according to hs sale estimates moeka sold about 4k less copies this single compared to last (~11.9k)

    so the increase seems to be due an overall groth of people wanting to see other members more
     
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  15. Mana

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    This is assuming that Moeka's slots that aren't sold out are completely empty which is definitely not the case, and they could very well be almost full, no one knows, so doing estimates on that gives a wrong idea imo

    I think the sales are great, and while I do know that it's thanks to HS, but the reason me (and other people) worried for their sales is because of all the things that happened this year, which could have made 48G/AKB lose fans (so, less HS, less sales etc.). Not only controversies but also big names like Sasshi being gone (the most popular 48G member in the previous single). the fact that it's selling so much despite all of that, it's really impressive. Besides, while I don't think that senbatsu affects sales, but it can help. if your fav member has a good position or is on the cover, it does help. and there are probably still people who do buy the single because they like the song, probably not very much but still, there's that. so the fact that it sells this wells means that AKB and management are doing things right, and we can enjoy the promotions without worry!
     
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  16. Aka

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    No, it means they're doing more. A lot more. When you have extra round after extra round, extra date after extra date that doesn't really show much competence. Like I said before, they made it impossible for an AKB single to sell less than a million, despite the quality of the song, the senbatsu, the center or even any scandal. When you buy tickets for your girls are you really thinking about Moeka, the covers, the MV or Mahohon? You just want to shake hands with and see them, like before, and that's just it. This single is a combined Summer+Sousenkyo single. Of course the sales would be good. Actually, it could've been better.
     
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  17. Sailor Miyawaki

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    the non sold out slots things are in the estimates for the members who didn't sell out all their slots too and doesn't count them as empty either, you can look for yourself to compare if you want as well as compare to previous singles:
    http://muranokuma.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2019/07/post-4735ae.html

    the sales are good but as a previous user said, to get a good idea you need to consider that we skipped an ssk single in there so you could say this is maybe almost a build up of 2 singles worth of savings and wanting to meet girls in HS. Another thing to note is that scandals that happened are more likely to turn off the fans who probably arent the ones bulk buyings +hundreds of copies of cds to meet the members, especially if those members weren't involved in the scandal, as most werent.
     
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    well this can be said with confidence now because we saw the HS sales and the single's sales... but before that, after all AKB went through this year (NGT controversy that affect 48's name, people becoming anti-AKS, shows cancelled, events cancelled including elections) I don't think any of us could have known for sure that they would still be able to sell this much after the break. But now we do know that there are still a lot of fans who stayed and support them and spend.

    I was talking more about people who would buy this single for other reasons, since not everyone buys for HS. but of course those who don't buy for HS are a minority anyway, I was just pointing out that these people who buy for other reasons might have helped too. Because imo management tried with the song and the covers (for example, the Yuiri+Naachan cover is obviously to attract the many fans who love this pair and who could buy this version just for that).

    Lastly, it doesn't make much sense to expect this single to sell more or even better because it combines summer+sousenkyo. Summer single get crazy sales because fans buy it to vote for elections, while Sousenkyo single is the senbatsu that is all picked by fans (including b-sides) which makes more people (fans) buying it because they voted for their fav to be in it. which again proves my point above that not all sales are because of HS, the fact that sousenkyo singles always sold well and a bit more than a regular single must be because people want to buy the single where their fav got to be in senbatsu because they vote.

    Of course doing more rounds and having more groups help AKB to keep the million sales through the years even with decrease of relevancy but yes, this year was different with all the issues, and I was one of the people who said not to be worried about how AKB would do (and I still think so) but even with the good HS sales, I didn't expect 1,5M on Billboard / 1,3M on Oricon. I think no matter what, these are numbers to celebrate and not to think "they could have done better" considering this is better than some of last year's singles and they're going through a bit of difficult times in the past months.
     
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  19. mayuri91

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    just reduced the number of girls in hs to any one of the 46g, let see if they can sustain the number. anyway, congratulation to this new push girl. wonder if she will get mega pushed treatment or just a short term replacement again.
     
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    who cares about 46 in this thread?!
    get lost
     
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