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Murakawa Bibian (Biitan) / Draft 2nd Generation

Discussion in 'HKT48 Graduated Members' started by ForrestFuller, Jun 27, 2015.

  1. icecream

    icecream Kenkyuusei

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  2. ColorfulMonsters48

    ColorfulMonsters48 Kenkyuusei

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    I really thought they earn less by Showroom. But this is a descent bonus income
     
  3. LarcKen

    LarcKen Future Girls

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    Don't forget that the 16000yen figure came from 20 tokyo towers worth 200000yen total. The girls get 8% cut.
    And 20 towers are really hard to came by for most girls, unless it's a birthday stream.
    Anyway i'm glad the accident came off kinda cute, like it could be a disaster if she badmouthed the fans or something.
     
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  4. theobserver

    theobserver Next Girls

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    The above was taken from Bibian's thread. I'll put this in the general AKB thread as well given that I think its a topic of general group-wide interest

    Reading and translating the source material, if its true what its said that 10x the income of that stream alone is her monthly salary:

    Assuming that will be the basic monthly salary 160,000yen (or USD1437 or AUD2000approx) for an 18year old who is still living at home with family. Of course we are not sure if 48G remunerates for relocation outside of the family home.
    Also taking into account that it is her "full-time job" although technically not accurate as it is likely NOT to equate to the hours on a full-time job (when calculated on monthly or yearly basis)
    - also note that 48G members are forbidden to hold other paid employment

    And this is basic salary which does not include cuts/royalties/bonuses from things like Showroom, non-48G magazine covers, gravure, etc....

    Some Google searches later, finds this: https://www.mhlw.go.jp/english/database/db-l/30/3006re/3006re.html
    Its basically Japan's Ministry of Labour latest report on wages and also hours worked
    - I do acknowledge that it does not specify whether its mean or median

    Comparisons made shows that 160,000yen basic salary is just above someone working in hospitality services. Although this is also based on a mean/median working hours of 100 hours per month (25 hours a week)

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    I do acknowledge that there might be different cost of living between the prefectures and that its a rough estimation + comparisons

    So what do you guys think? The age old debate has re-emerged, are the girls paid well enough?

    <EDIT: I removed my musings, I think it take away the focus of what I wanted to raise. But yes, I am always grateful>
     
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  5. ColorfulMonsters48

    ColorfulMonsters48 Kenkyuusei

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    I think this is quite well. Since in Germany you get minimum 1540€ with 40 hours each week(roughly 170h/month). She still gets some money by Showroom, doesn't have to pay rent at her home and AKS gives them extra girldorms.

    If you take the average monthly income in Japan(around 3.500USD). This is still quite okay, since mostly very rich persons are responsible dir this figure.

    @theobserver You earn very well.
     
  6. itachi101

    itachi101 Kenkyuusei

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    Bibian:^^;: Bibian[hehe]
    what Have you done:D
     
  7. Delur

    Delur Kenkyuusei

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    "She lets her stage smile slide, fiddles with her phone, and leans back against the sofa before musing"

    Did not notice that, she seemed pretty normal and didnt say anything bad or in a bad manner; just private info
     
  8. theobserver

    theobserver Next Girls

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    Yeah, don't think there was any major fallout here. Just some insights into their lives behind the curtain
     
  9. lilwisper

    lilwisper Kenkyuusei

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    Yeah she just seems genuinely happy. Good for her, you work hard, you should enjoy getting paid. That aside........... Vivian w/ long hair?!?!?!?! :1st:
     
  10. xrahmx

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  12. ForrestFuller

    ForrestFuller Senbatsu

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    :ome:Happy Birthday Vivian :ome:
     
  14. Mayoyo

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    :ome:Happy Birthday Bibiaaaaaaangggg
    :ome:
     
  15. xrahmx

    xrahmx Member

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    Bibian had a Q&A session. Some highlights below, although she answered with pictures & text, so check her IG stories for the full experience!
    Which Pokemon do you like best?
    --[Pikachu]

    What would you like to do if you graduated?
    --Study abroad

    What should you do when you're always paying attention to other's needs and it's exhausting?
    --Think of something that will make you happy!

    [Eng:] What is your favorite food?
    -- [Eng:] I love eggggggggg

    I love your unadornedness! I think you're the one and only individual personality!
    -- [Eng:] I'm happy

    Is it ok if I earnestly push [support] you??
    --I'm also earnest, so if you'd earnestly come to like me, I'd be earnestly happy

    My friend is harassed by antis. How should I voice my support?
    --I also tend to make mistakes when dealing with antis, so perhaps it's best if you try and ask all sorts of idols! I'm the type who wants to expose them! Give them a taste of their own medicine! But it's best to just stealthily block and mute them.

    Please send me a good luck charm so that I'll come to like studying!
    --I absolutely love to study! Since I wanted to learn, I begged my parents to sign me up for cram school and they let me go! Even now, if I had the money I'd call over a private tutor! But I neither have the time nor the money, so for now I just buy books to learn English. That's why I'm super jealous of people who get to study!

    Between Miso, Salt and Soy sauce style ramen, which do you like best?
    --Donbei

    What's the thing you really, really want to do right now?
    --Go on a clothing shopping spree

    Let's go to Australia together
    --[shakes head disapprovingly]
     
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  16. Cristafari

    Cristafari Stage48 Admin Staff Member Stage48 Admin

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    From last week's 48-group handshake event...


    if the video does not show watch the video here
     
  17. ForrestFuller

    ForrestFuller Senbatsu

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