Single AKB48 56th [Sustainable] (2019/09/18)

So, nvmea's post got me wondering and I decided to look into how many hours Moeka has spent streaming. According to my, ah, we'll call them records, including both the 16th Gen Auditions and the 3rd Gen Draft Auditions, she has spent 112 hours on Showroom.

What was more interesting than hours spent, however, is that she stopped streaming regularly about the same time she stopped performing. Her last stage performance (excluding the Anniversary) was 2018-11-19, and her last regular Showroom was 2018-11-29. Post-auditions, she had 9 streams in April, 8 streams in May, 3 in June (all before SSK), 2 in July, 4 in August (incl. Myonichi), 4 in September, one each in October and November. This year she streamed twice, once in February and once two weeks ago to promote her PB launch.

She was promoted to full member of Team K at the Anniversary performance in December, so perhaps those above mentioning Team K's difficult choreo are on the right track.

しゃとずっき WCenter pl0x

 

So, are you saying that she's Team K's Ito Kirara?

 

hey, I am always at least aiming for the "what a load of crap... but he has a point!" category

see?

I want 17th gen... or was it 18th gen already?!

mainichi idol...
Kuranoo Narumi: 0
Ota Nao: 935
Yamauchi Mizuki: 0
Kubo Satone: 0

clear which one should be in senbatsu

 

Well, technically you said she's streamed for "hundreds" of hours, which isn't strictly true... lol

Mainichi is overrated unless it's Megu, streaming 3-4 times a month usually on the same day of the month (3 (sa), 10 (to), 20, and 30 (sato) day) is where the real money is at.

 

I actually think that this is what might have happened. Management had to promote Moeka to Team K because she was getting popular and getting outside jobs/offers (like her solo Cm) and she couldn't stay with the low KKS pay (maybe they couldn't even let her do a Cm or be on music shows if she stayed KKS?) especially since management probably thought about pushing her in senbatsu in 2019. So they promoted her but her skills level isn't ready for Team K yet, so aside from being busy with school and other schedules, she must be taking lessons the rest of the time when she's free, which might not be too often if she has lots of school work. This could be why she has yet to perform in theater this year.

She might have been promoted too early but also she couldn't have stayed as KKS in her situation with her rising popularity and all her works, it's a complicated situation, the best would have been if she stayed as KKS for longer and her popularity would rise later... but things went too fast. I think she's probably working now to get ready to perform as a full member in the theater. She apparently struggled a bit in Team K concert a few days ago and she said sorry. She did get better compared to last year so I think it's a matter of time before she's good enough. Honestly she has a lot of qualities so it's really just that her dancing is not on Team K level. She's good in pretty much everything else. I don't think there is a lack of effort from her, for those of you who saw Nemousu Tv training camp in early 2018, she really struggle with dancing and tried hard to get better and she did get better and probably still working to improve more.

Management still made her center probably because they can just make a choreo suitable for her with Sustainable and it's only one song to learn, so it's not a problem. I think that she performed it well enough tbh

 

hm.. will the streams with Yukina not add up 88 hours... unlikely...
but yes, it's the characteristics of us people providing unconventional food for thought to use hyperbole...
but yes, I did think the two auditions would have added up more... though realistically hundreds of hours in a year is quite a feat unless you're mainichi idol

that's too complicated for me, I usually struggle to remember even what month it is, let alone day

 

SR is good for popularity, but it doesn't hone your skills for performance. I don't think we should be too harsh on Moeka at the moment, but if she continues being pushed and she doesn't strive to become a better performer, then I think the criticism can legitimately start. No matter how popular you are, as a center you are expected to have some level of competence since not only your wotas will see you but the general public, and your image becomes the group's image; you don't even have to be the best as long as you can hold your own. If Moeka is smart she will pick on this right away and there will be no problems.

 

@dutchie well yes this is why I said "aside from being busy with school", and in my post I did not say that school is the reason for her absence in theater, just that it's one of the things that takes her time. and yes these are my speculation, which is why I used "must be", "might not be", "could be" in those sentences. My post starts with "this is what might have happened" so yes.

At the end none of us know, but one thing is sure, it's not Moeka refusing like a few people seem to assume. No member has this power... and if she dared to act like this and make no effort, she would never get an a-side center from management. So there's definitely other reasons and I think that what I said in my post seems possible with what we know of Moeka.

 

exactly! I don't understand - what do people actually think Moeka is doing? Sitting at home all day playing video games?

 

Some idols improve on performance faster than others. Sometimes it's not a lack of effort, but the necessity of even more effort. Again, I wouldn't be too harsh on Moeka. Luckily for her the group is at a point where she can be placed front and center without having proven herself, since she has strong seniors supporting her on her flanks, it's the opposite now: this is her chance to prove herself. If anything center has kind of stopped being a reward and is becoming more like a test. Being center also means being able to withstand the pressure. If management didn't believe she could do it they wouldn't give her this task.

 

lol, that reminds me when they had to yank Mayuyu off UZA center because she couldn't do the choreo well. Then Paruru living a hell on Earth when they made her a center of song with heavy choreography.

It's almost a month away from the release date, maybe they should reveal the MV anytime soon?

 

I know its the official narrative but I've always found the "Mayu couldn't do the choreo well thus she was replaced as co-center" story as BS. Like if they really want Mayu to be co-center, adjustments were possible. Heck, probably the most technically difficult part of the choreo, the scorpion, was not even done by Jurina, the other co-center.

Then again, it gave a nice story for Mayu. And Yuko definitely owned the choreo of Uza.

Anyway, I guess with Moeka right now, maybe they would be playing with the story on how she's not as good as the senpais and she'll do her best to improve.

 

Wait a minute... since when this thread became Moeka thread??
at least it's better than welp vs entire S48 users J-idol vs K-idol wars

Go ask Johnny's Idol wota. They are still in dark era tho

 

People are giving their thoughts on whether she deserved the centership or not and as to why her skills seemed to be still lacking for a center. So its about the center of the A-side, not really off-topic.

Anyway, as long as she does well in HS (had she sold out all her slots? Not yet I think, so that's an argument against her centership ) and she gets people to talk about "the new center" and be curious or interested in AKB's new single, then I guess it was not a wrong decision by management to pick her as center.

 

No, that was real. They even had footage of Mayuyu completely pissed off. And you can tell that the MVs story was written to have Mayuyu and Jurina as the centre characters but the choreo had the final lineup and positions.

One thing I don't understand about Moeka is how did she end up like this if she's having so much training over these years/months.

Spoiler

I don't think she had a mental disorder like Naru. And no, this is not me trying to call her fat, but when you have an activity that pushes for your body it's hard to imagine how can you become like this, the same way you don't see a professional sportsman not being fit, unless he's not truly a pro. Therefore I have to wonder, is she really having lessons to be able to be a better performer?

 

that's why I can't get into them! Otherwise would ditch AKB to become Johnny's wota in a heartbeat!

I think it is-
but anyway, I don't think it's such a wonder. Most idols have terrible eating and sleeping habits to start with. Moeka has been under immense pressure for at least the last few months (from scandal which could've ended her career to centre) which likely made those even worse (and there could be also other, school-related pressures). And if the only help she gets from management is "well, you have to try harder!!" and all those great dance teachers we have all seen in the documentaries, who enjoy nothing more than putting people down and shouting at them then the lessons and evaluations are only adding more and more stress...

And if you really want to hear it - for I suspect you wrote it just for that reason! - she was never the skinny, childish type

 

As someone who has gained weight due to stress -- your body can and will go either way if you're subject to such pressure, specially if you eat for comfort or stop doing it. She doesn't even need to overeat if her body is sabotaging her. If people could understand this I think these girls could live healthier lives. I mean constant workout is good, but if your body is suffering from such a strain that's a problem.

 

Just want to put out a PSA on this thread since this is currently the most active AKB thread and the announcement is important, but AKBingo is set to end by the end of September. Feel free to discuss in the AKBingo thread.