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Discussion in 'The STAGE48 Idol Emporium' started by ForrestFuller, Aug 31, 2018.

  1. HappySakuraHappy

    HappySakuraHappy Kenkyuusei

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    Are those not in the same category? And as I said, there is suspicion of more but I don’t remember everything.
     
  2. wlerin

    wlerin Next Girls

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    PD48 also had an issue where they doubled or quadrupled the audience votes in at least one episode, to make it look it was a larger audience. But that wasn't a scandal because those votes weren't "paid", and supposedly they didn't change the rankings (although given what we now know, maybe they did).
     
  3. mikia

    mikia Kenkyuusei

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    Me thinks if 48G were a Korean group it'd have disintegrated into pieces years ago with Sousenkyos, various scandals...
    Sorry but I'm done with Izone they're done and dusted.
    Japanese members need to come back asap
     
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  4. Mikuriin

    Mikuriin Future Girls

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    Idk but if senkyo was rigged, there is no way they would put Sasshi in 1st. FOUR times.
    I don't think Jlines should AND would leave when IZONE situation is like this. That would turn the support they get to hate.
     
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  5. Reveen

    Reveen Under Girls

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    Yeah, absolutely NO WAY Muto Tomu would get kami7 if sousenkyo was rigged :lol:
     
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  6. Titan3

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    it was during the group battle stage, all the vote totals were even numbers, which would have been pretty unlikely to happen normally, so the assumption is that they were just doubled but who knows with mnet at this point, they could have been all fabricated that way as well.
     
  7. biboloxo

    biboloxo Future Girls

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    Have you ever bought anything to support them? No? Then they are good, with or without you.
     
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  8. wlerin

    wlerin Next Girls

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    Wasn't just that, people who were there in the audience said there were only half or a quarter as many people as there were votes.
     
  9. terpcity1999

    terpcity1999 Kenkyuusei

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    They doubled the votes of the live audience.

    Estimates of the live audience from people who went was about 500 people. The totaled votes for each group battle was around 800 votes per round. It's likely there were 400+ people in the crowd, and they just doubled the votes.

    People who want to give MNet the benefit of the doubt can justify it by saying they gave the live audience votes more weight compared to online votes. Maybe they just wanted to make it seem like more people were there. Who knows? Either way, the doubled vote count for each trainee was directly added to their score.

    This of course assumes no vote rigging this early into the show.
     
  10. Momentosis

    Momentosis Kenkyuusei

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    The best thing for IZONE would be to rebrand.

    1. Rebrand
    2. Disband
    3. Stay together

    in that order imo.

    Even if the girls had nothing to do with it, the group will have been built on a lie. A pretty terrible one at that. If people think the group works despite that, shake off the name of the lie and rebrand under a new name.

    Wouldn't be easy, but nothing really is in this situation.

    For the least drama, just disband the group.
     
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  11. Merika

    Merika Kenkyuusei

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    I would rather they disband the group, then to ever reveal who got rigged in. The members who did get rigged in didn’t ask for it, and the members who didn’t get rigged in would loose their deserved continued career

    But hopefully they just leave the group alone & let them keep going

    If not, at least it would be early enough for

    - Yena to be added to Everglow
    - Eunbi & Chaewon to be added to Rocket Punch
     
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  12. Mancave

    Mancave Kenkyuusei

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    1. Disband
    2. For j members continue as AKB48G members and stay away from korean stuff then cut ties with anything related to izone
    3. For k members they can salvage what is leftover from their fame if they're not banned
     
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  13. Merika

    Merika Kenkyuusei

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    Well not that lol
     
  14. Lookman

    Lookman Kenkyuusei

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    Honestly, just
    1. Disband them
    2. Make the K Members to join AKS.
    3. Ask AKS to create a korean sub-unit.(or korean group)
    4. Establish a korean company or make a contract with korean agency to promote and take care of them.

    Eventhough those look so impossible. But, who knows? The people don't know what AKS are thinking.

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  15. Jurinavenclaw

    Jurinavenclaw Future Girls

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    Again, why are people calling for disbandment? Aren't the fan support still strong and the general public's concern is more with the higher ups?

    The network ban is probably just temporary and actually resulting to more publicity for the girls (at least for now). Besides, on albums, concerts, and Japanese promotions alone, they are probably earning what some groups can only dream of.

    If the people involved from the companies are sacked and replaced by new execs, as well as the girls who were cheated out compensated, then just let the group be.

    The K-line's fate, whether they will still have a career after Izone or not, will unlikely to be changed by a disbandment. At the very least let them get the most out of the remaining time of Izone.
     
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  16. Akusaiko

    Akusaiko Future Girls

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    Reveal the rigged?, how? Using real voting data? Which period? Only the final stage, where the top 20 already been chosen? Oh wow yikes! What about those who been eliminated unfairly so those top 20 can be standing on final?

    If you barking about real winner, and robbed, who's the real winner?, who's robbing who? it's more fairly to say that there is no winner since there's possibility that there's popular trainees being eliminated on first elimination stage by mnet, with or without their own agency permission, so, those who advance to the next stage aren't deserved to be the winner too

    The cannon is aimed toward the winner's even though the police already reveal the true name of the mastermind, and they never mentioning any trainees name yet on their investigation, at this point, without evidence, all the trainees including the winners are still a victims of the manipulation, shame on you for spreading hates toward the members
     
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  17. lionel90

    lionel90 Under Girls

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    why not, but have them managed by a completly different company, one who didn't send anyone to any produce rigshow.
    And make sure not a single cent of money goes to the corrupts compagnies (as if changing the the exec who were caught is enough to get rid of the corruption) and restart from scratch.
    Assuming another agency would work with the girls.
    Difficult task.
     
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  18. biboloxo

    biboloxo Future Girls

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    https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=469&aid=0000440310

    Mnet still hasn't decide whether if IZ*ONE will perform at MAMA 2019 or not.

    To be fair, even if this is just my wish, if they extend IZ*ONE from 2.6 years to 5 years, I will gladly have IZ*ONE go on hiatus for another 2 or 3 months.
     
  19. Baal

    Baal Kenkyuusei

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    You don't get it.
    But for an overview it's more or less like that, several articles come out a day about it, after a while the public stops attending these topics (just like in any country), and only those who go on to leave comments and evaluate them are the people of the niche (antis or fans). So there may be this deceptive effect that the general public is on the side of the group.

    The opinion is probably the same as before, they do not ask for disband by the girls to be guilty or not, but because while the group is active will make money, money that will flow to the dirty agencies + CJ.
     
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  20. biboloxo

    biboloxo Future Girls

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    Not everyone can get accepted into SM.
     

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