TV / Radio Nogizaka Under Construction (2015/04/19 - )

HK3 returns! Kuromi Haruka looks like Sakurai Reika imo. New 4th Gen members handled themselves well despite Bananaman’s teasing.

 

First impressions on the new 4th Gens? I'm still sticking with Kuromi-chan.

That's what a year of practicing gets you!

 

Kuromi Haruka (nickname: HongKong girl)


Class: Kung-fu fighter
Party role: Damage dealer
Skill: Xiaolongbao combo
First she attacks with 9 thrust attacks, then 6 slash attacks, ending with 3 spin attacks.

Satou Rika (nickname: Science girl)

Class: Alchemist
Party role: Supporter
Skill: Buff words
Use praise, complimented words to make her team members become stronger because she knew every good point of her teammates.

Hayashi Runa (nickname: Monotone girl)

Class: Rebellious bandit
Party role: The tank, crowd control
Skill: Rice, come here!!!
Make a big noise to focus the enemy's attacks on her. Give her teammates the free time to take actions.

Matsuo Miyu (nickname: Cheerleader girl, meoW girl)

Class: Ninja
Party role: Stealth
Skill: Two times back-flip
One round-off jump and two back-flips make her move so fast. She can use this to attack or escape depend on the situation.

Yumiki Nao (nickname: Household girl)

Class: Miko girl
Party role: Healer
Skill: Big family's cooking
Her prepared food will heal the whole party's HP, the max size of the party is 10 members.

 

If I squint, Kuromi Haruka looks like Goto Rara. I'm looking forward to seeing these girls more on the show.

 

Very promising members! ^^

Hayashi Runa piques my curiosity the most however. I think she has more to unleash

 

I like the impression of all the new Nogizaka 4th gen girls. They are all very unique and they have a lot of charm. Ito Riria has a partner in crime now! Both Kuromi and Riria can star in action sequences now. I can't wait for it to happen. It will be very nice to see it in action. Satou Rika for new recruit with the senior 1st gen members please. The word sense battle with Himura taking compliments is always a good time. Hayashi Runa is very interesting. Her tone of speech is very flat but I feel she has a large ability to improve herself. Her speaking style reminds me a bit of Den chan with her robot talk but I feel she will improve if she keeps practicing and learning. Matsuo Miyu's double back flip was amazing. She is a very talented girl with a lot of athletic skill and ability. Yumiki Nao has a very large family. She leaves me an impression of being reliable and careful. All in all the Nogizaka girls are a fine addition to the Nogizaka family. Next week is the long awaited Bananaman invasion again. Let's have a good time and keep up your spirits.

 

The new Nogi members were the only ones in the boring kenshusei uniforms. I wonder if they'll get ones that will separate them from the others like how the original 4th Gen's were khaki versus the member's purple. Personally, I think they should just get this same uniform.

 

^ the uniform bit was interesting. As the new gens on HinaAi came in the same uniform
and I heard K46 was the same on KeyaKake (didn't watch..as always)

 

they introduced Kuromi to be able to do a bit of Cantonese. but her self introduction was actually in Mandarin/Putonghua.

 

Hoshino Minami's shouting was so cute . I want to bring sweet rice to her!!

 

My impression of the new girls are great. Surprisingly, they're very good at speaking. The can handle very well Bananaman's jokes.

 

Is there any major different between these 2? I always thought they talk the same language lol

 

Definitely big difference in terms of spoken language. Mandarin speaker and Cantonese speaker won't be able to understand each other.

 

After watch it with subs, i like Hayashi Runa the most. I'm looking forward to see how her flat-speaking meet a low-voice KitaYuri
I hope the new girls will be featured on 4th gen new show since the start.

 

You can more or less communicate using the same written Chinese for Mandarin/Cantonese. I think Mandarin grammar is looser, and there are some significant differences in vocabulary (apparently ~30%, including even some basic words). But you can generally get by, esp. with more formal language like reading the newspaper, whereas there’s more divergence in casual language.

The main difference is that spoken Cantonese and Mandarin are mutually unintelligible. Like, speakers of certain Romance or Scandinavian languages can sort of understand each other. But a Mandarin and a Cantonese speaker won’t understand each other at all. Mandarin uses 4 tones vs Cantonese using 6 tones (or 9 more traditionally).

That means Kuromi must've also (or only??) learned Mandarin. It's impossible to know the pronunciation of one just by learning the other.

 

I doubt Kuromi is proficient in either Cantonese or Mandarin. In her earlier showroom, she said she doesn't really speak Chinese but she's learning, something along that line. And at the same time she said she was confident about her english. And to be honest, I don't even think her english is that good from the short english intro in her showroom. I hardly catch what she was saying, and she still made a common japanese mistakes of mixing up 'r' and 'l' sound.
I guess after she knew there are 2 4th gens member who speak english almost like a native, she backs down on english, and decided to show off chinese instead.

 

That would make her a candidate for NogiEigo (and Nick-kun) then

 

Mixing L and R isn’t something I’d really use to judge whether a Japanese learner is good at English. Even Japanese people who are otherwise fluent and lived for years in an English environment sometimes mush them together.
That being said, if you think her English wasn’t good, chances are it really wasn’t good.

Yeah, she butchered a few common words (習 xi, 喜歡 xihuan, 包 bao), which means she’s either very beginner level or she choked under pressure. But I know some Mandarin and I could at least understand most of what she was saying, and she knew how to use tones even if she missed a few. I guess that’s a pretty low bar… But I can’t understand what some of the members say in Chinese even when there’s subtitles.

 

The difference is so huge that they are almost entirely two separate languages. Only a few words sound remotely similar. Yet, there are also a few Japanese words that sound like Chinese too.