Murashige Anna (Aanya) / 1st Generation

so the bottomline is "48G members can have public date as long at proper time n no kissing or holding hand."

 

I guess the bottomline is that the fans will decide for themselves what is appropriate and what is not. Not some mythical management rules.

 

Well, the girls themselves mentioned in multiple shows that there was actually a contract that forbid them to get into a romantic relationship with either male or female, so...

 

The bottom line is if you're an idol, don't be together with a male unsupervised by members of management. If you do that anyway, you better not get caught or you will have a scandal on your hands. End of story.

Seriously, has no one been paying attention?

 

Because when you say it out loud where people can hear, it sounds rather stupid and people look at you with a great sense a of pity. Maybe that's why people keep arguing.

While there is a contract it's actually can't be enforced since it is illegal to have contract laws like that even in Japan.

Pretty much and that is why people are really arguing, some using Miyuki's arguement when it isn't the same and some just demanding more.

 

Maybe she can't apologize even if she wanted to... well, not officially anyway. They will probably delete any references she makes to the incident. With this hands off policy they seem to be taking... IMO it is like they are telling their members... if you mess up and get yourselves involved in a scandal we will not let you use official social media or 48group resources to help get you out of it... you are on your own in dealing with the consequences.

 

I know that most HKT member do read their G+ message. Especially this one, since it's the first after the scandal. If she crossed onto her fans call, i hope she will think about a way to talk back. Maybe mobame.

I feel hyprocrite right now. Because during the sousenkyo, Milky was hurt by a scandal and her speech moved me so much that i directly blamed the fans to have left her, that she didn't deserve this.
Theorically, the same things should go with Annya right? That the love for your oshimen should be strong enough to overcome any situation, and that Murashige Annya truly loves her fans.

But i went naturally to the "objective" side, saying she was reckless of going out midnight as she took the risk to hurt not only her fans and the current image of HKT48. (ex : NMB fans calling her out because she's like Sasshi)

The weight of the evidence should take into account, but i'm conflicted with supporting her as she is indissociable of HKT48, or being angry at her because she put her group at risk.

And i asked myself, what would i do if it was Tomonaga Mio or Kodama Haruka involved?

I'm weak. I would still support her. Because i love HKT48, and she's part of the family no matter what.

Actually, i am very close to what the Japanese sakura oshi think (see the second translated post) but i'm slightly more in favor of Annya, as i won't stop support HKT.

When feelings is involved...well you are the only one who decide about Annya's situation. it's up to you. As for me, I still want to believe in Murashige Anna.

 

if akip ever said that love ban law was a joke,
then sasshi move to hkt definitely no "punishment" or "exile".

and up until the results is just make me facepalm,
high sales>morality

 

Check yourself, buster. 'Against the rules' and 'immoral' are completely different things.

@gocchisama, I really appreciate your post. It's very thoughtful and honest.


And @aratafuru, thank you for saying more clearly what I was trying to express! Not allowing a girl to address the issue directly to her fans definitely qualifies as a punishment to me. How can she regain trust if she can't acknowledge what happened?

 

While I do agree the reason they aren't "punishing" (I don't believe Sasshi or Minegishi were actually punished, but the general public sees it that way) the girls is because they don't want negative PR, I don't see why they can't let her apologise of her own will. If Murashige writes an apology on her google plus because she wants to, I don't see how that would harm the companies image or anything. By not allowing her to apologise it just makes it harder for her and the fans to move forward :/

 

@Sakura Adressing the issue and and apologizing for it are also two different things.

 

my opinion this is exactly what management trying todo,
it is ok for aks playing "bad guys" toward shige, so the fans will feel sorry for her and support her more.

the "pattern" was kinda similar to other scandal cases before her.

 

An apology is a way of addressing the issue.

 

Woops, i meant one of many ways of addressing the issue, but is there really something for Anna to apologize for? Or rather would you listen to anything else other than an apology?

 

What do you expect, @mieniem? "Guys, this was nothing. Why y'all so uptight about it? lol" Not only did she act irresponsibly as a public figure, but she also quite simply isn't supposed to be out that late at night as a 16-year old. It's usually set as between eleven and four if not ten and five. If she was hanging around at a game center or another place young people usually hang out at she'd be likely to get escorted. In a strict high school she'd get suspended for a few days. It may sound weird, but it's (also) the school's reponsibility. They do take this stuff pretty serious here. You'd be surprised how much schools here consider themselves to be in charge of not only the kids' education but also nurture etc. Let's say a kid steals something from a convenience store. The first person they're gonna call is the school.

I'm not saying this is a huge issue. It's peanuts really. But an apology isn't ouf of place. By dragging it out like this you're just making more out of it than it is. Thing happens, girl learns her lesson, "alright that wasn't good, sorry about that", okay let's move on. Unfortunately they don't do it that smoothly.

 

I've got no words. (although why blame the school? wouldn't logic or past experience tell you that not every issue is the fault of who watches them just that some people are going to do careless things and hope, no one gets hurt when doing it?)

 

I'm just saying, you know. Consider the culture. When I was in high school here I skipped classes like... once and when I got home in the evening that day my family and just about everyone was grilling me about why I hadn't been in school and where I'd been and what and how. Until at least college you're just not allowed to do that shit. Which can be weird, but it's that strict here. People do care. You only need to do something like that a handful of times. It'll be seen as proper delinquency and people will not scare away from actually calling you that. People of name already have criticized AKS for not taking responsibility to at least address the delinquency of their underaged members.
Saying you're sorry solves a lot of problems. It's just a gesture. Doesn't matter what you think or if you actually feel that way. Just say you're sorry and people will be happy.

 

That doesn't really sound any different than living here in Canada.

 

Can someone translate her post for today? I miss her and she is back! Yay! With a continue rise in G+ followers. Boo-yah!

 

never heard of it, but might as well be true. even today OR in the past only. if the rule is still present in contracts it is hard to explain why Miyawaki Sakura was so uncertain if the rule actually exists when she was talking to Sasshi in Goboten.
either way I don't think it really matters nowadays if the management itself doesn't enforce it anymore.

by "mythical" I meant that it might not be set in stone in girls' contracts. that it is more of unspoken rule or common sense. don't want trouble - don't date. as I see it - this love ban rule comes from early idol days when there were standalone super idols whose image was almost always innocent, so preserving the image of this innocence was a natural thing to do. in the early days AKB also started as an idol group targeting hardcore wotas, so the inheritance of the rule was inevitable. it might as well be in contracts then, that is why breaching the rule meant severe punishment. by enforcing it management wanted to keep the fanbase. nowadays AKB grew to a national level and targets everyone. and general public doesn't really care about this no dating rule or even finds it ridiculous. AKB became more of talento factory than idol group in a classic sense. unique kyara is more valuable than oldschool cute and innocent idol image, so it became kind of strange to apply this rule like in the old days. applying it for girls that pursue sexy or variety kyara or for those who is 20+ years old is kind of ridiculous.