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Fujiyoshi Karin (Karin) / 2nd Generation

Discussion in 'Sakurazaka46 Members' started by ForrestFuller, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. ukifune

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    Maybe it's not my place to announce this (please let me know), but Keyavids has released We Still Subbing's subbed version of the Special Web Movie linked to by @dinbradpitt. Thanks, We Still Subbing!

    I translated some Japanese comments on the YouTube video. We're among friends:
    • Karin-chan's spirit of not fitting the mould has truly been great from the beginning.
    • The gap between Karin-chan's inarticulateness and her performance really does it for me these days.
    • Karin-chan: "I refuse to be stereotypical." This somehow makes me happy (?)
    • Even though they don't show on the surface, the warm feelings deep in her heart draw me in and make me want to support her.
    • Karin-chan's sense of purpose, and her very being, create a strong effect that makes her indispensable to Sakurazaka.
    • I'd like to see a dance number done by Karin-chan, Chuuke, Pon, Fuu-chan and Hikarin.
    • It was great to hear her say: "I enjoy it tremendously." [music]
    • I'm sorry to say this, but she is the most Keyaki-like member.
    • [0:34] Although she herself said it was "weird" [pride?], I think it's an appealing strong point. Karin-chan is wonderful.
    • She is definitely very, very cool. [kakkoii]
    • Here comes Karin-chan!
    • Every ardent word from Karin-chan shook my soul... I thought once again: "We should keep our eyes fixed on this girl's progress."
    • I was so happy that I support you.
    • I like how, in her blog and so on, although she doesn't give us many words, she chooses them well, so that in a short post, she clearly gets across what she wants to say.
    • Ah, umm, Karin-chan's the greatest.
    • I love the Karin-chan who, although she's not good at expressing herself in words, expresses her passionate feelings in her performance.
    • 2:05 Karin-chan in the "unrivalled" zone.
    • She's cute, cool [kakkoii], has an aura, and is an excellent dancer. Can there be someone this strong? lol
    • Her skin is beautiful → I stare at her cheeks → ....
    • Here comes Karin-chan. Ridiculously cute.
    • The quiet ace with burning feelings.
    • I'm not sure if she's my oshi, but my eyes just keep following her. Does that make her my oshi?
    • Karin-chan = quiet ace.
    • I can't say this well, but I love the feeling that Karin-chan has purpose.
    • There's a feeling that inside Karin-chan is something hidden and passionate.
    • I love her special aura. Her calmness is so good.
    • It's so good that you're my oshi.
    • She worked so hard! So admirable! Yoshiyoshi Fujiyoshi! ["There, there, Fujiyoshi" or "Good-good Fujiyoshi"].
    • The close-up images made me so happy.
    • Wow, her skin is so lovely...I love her.
    • Suddenly I'm searching for nothing but Karin-chan.
    • Her voice is so cute.
    • 1:45 Cute.
    • In a good way, she has unique sensitivity and expressive power
    • This girl alone will definitely raise the expressiveness of the whole group.
    • The rehearsal images were awfully cool [kakkoii]
    • She's just preparing for MVs and music shows, but this amount of effort behind the scenes is so moving.
    • Her "talent" is like Hirate's, is it not?
    • 0:30
    • Her innate talent and taste are outstanding. She's the group's number one prodigy. I just wish she had more self-confidence. She has such tremendous potential that it seems to me she hasn't even brought out half of it yet. I really look forward to her awakening.
      • It would be terrific if they gave her a song with the explosive power of Fukyouwaon. Though I hope she doesn't become someone they have to carry out.
      • It would definitely be the greatest if they gave her a song that would strengthen her strong areas. I get the feeling that she is now right in the midst of polishing up her potential.

    I don't think of Karin as exactly "inarticulate" or having a "communication block" -- she was fairly relaxed and communicative way back in her audition Showrooms -- but it's true she does not seem comfortable expressing her feelings outwardly. However, I think that in this video as elsewhere, she's trying to describe subtle feelings that don't fit into easy boxes. The words "subtlety" and "taste" keep coming to mind. It feels to me, as some comments suggest, that there is a lot inside her that she is now feeling a bit released to try to express. Although her real expressiveness still comes in her dance and physical expressions.

    Her intense concentration and hard work were awfully impressive in the video. I think she does have special talent, but she also has hard work and concentration to bring it out.
     
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  2. dinbradpitt

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    https://sakurazaka101.com/untitled-2021-03-14/
    Everyone, I love you so much

    Thank you for saying a lot about how you love 2nd generation

    We have experienced many same things and overcome them
    It has become a pretty big event in my life
    I am genuinely glad
    to be with all of you


    Riko asked me to write a last blog
    She repeated this many times on the same day

    That is also Riko-like

    From now on we will be in different places,
    but let’s overcome things together



    In any case, thank you
    Even after graduation, we’ll always be buddies!
     
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  3. ukifune

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    @dinbradpitt -- Wonderful. Thank you.

    This brings tears to my eyes on the same morning that Guuzen no Kotae squeezes my heart. A beautiful, gentle song about a chance meeting that seems to be turning into love. Aki-P is such a trickster: he turns a member who is not interested in love into the group's love-song specialist. I'm so eager to see Karin's graceful dance in the MV.

    They meet by chance in Shibuya, one coming down through the crowds on Spain-zaka slope, the other going up it. Their eyes meet and for some reason they smile. They walk together happily, smiling but hardly speaking, down into Center Gai. She somehow summons the courage to say what comes into her mind: "Maybe we should be going out together." She says it in a jokey way, but her companion nods. Is this serious? She hopes that the next time they meet will not be by chance.
    Premiered on KochiHoshi radio about four hours ago:


    if the video does not show watch the video here

    Early transcription of Japanese lyrics from Twitter attached.

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    EDIT: I wonder if there's any way they could shoot the MV in the places mentioned in the song. Both are busy narrow entertainment streets, with shops and restaurants, etc., a little flashier in Spain-zaka. From the Shibuya Scramble you go northwest into Center-Gai, then walk north and west about 300m through some streets to the foot of Spain-zaka.

    EDIT2:The lyrics say that when she said out loud what she was feeling, she was "a me who isn't me 僕じゃない僕。" This is like a line in Naze Koi: "I want to find, not myself, but my true self 自分じゃないホントの自分見つけたい." I think that when Karin said she had found a different way of understanding that song, she may have meant that she thought less of love than of becoming a different person. She said in the Summoner's War video that when she was first in Sakurazaka, she didn't feel like herself. She was becoming -- is becoming -- "a me who isn't me." And I think she likes it.

    EDIT3: Composer aokado also did Seifuku to Taiyou. naruhodo. I like that song, too. He also did Saishuu no Chikatetsu on the first release, and well as Yakusoku no Tamago and Yasashisa ga Jama o Suru for Hiragana/Hinatazaka. And songs for AKB and other 48 groups, as well as two coupling songs for Nogi (Kodoku no Aozora and Hito Natsu no Nagasa yori...).

    Just to complete the Karin-song info, Naze Koi was composed by "SouichirouK, Nozomu.S", the prolific duo also known as Soulife, who besides songs for many other artists, wrote Kimi ga Inai, Noriokureta Basu, Kataru nara Mirai wo..., and Futari Saison, which some people consider Keyakizaka's best song.

    Some 5channel comments say this is a nothing song, a standard old-fashioned idol song (a "royal road" idol song). Hmm. I think it makes a big difference to me that I was able to find the lyrics and understand the emotional situation. On the other hand, there are several posts criticizing the lyrics, calling them dasai, but never mentioning love. I must remember not to take comments too seriously.
     
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  4. dinbradpitt

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    https://twitter.com/sakuzakacentral/status/1372058237894279169?s=19
    I'm a little sad .seing karin meet and greet result . She so far behind other 2 center ten and runrun.
    Even moriya rena , ozono and hinosu already left karin behind. If stay like this maybe karin will not become center again in sakura 3 single.
    I don't know what fan want from members. Maybe karin need to work on fanservice.
    I know renaa and ozono are really good in fanservice.
    I subscribe ozono paid mail.she send foto in the morning everyday .
    Maybe karin need to work on the mail first .I don't know.
    I just want karin to do well on her meguri sales .
     
  5. ukifune

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    Yes, this worries me, too. The results this week are pretty poor. I think she wants to do better, and she is posting a bit more at times. But I think there may be some basic problems: one that she thinks hard and says what she thinks, and is not going to say all the easy little things that make a great handshake artist. Maybe she doesn't even think quickly enough to do that act.

    Another is that people may find her too cool, and may think she is too strong for them. I think that would make her less attractive to the core group of handshake/meguri fans. In general, I think they want someone they can imagine feels dependent on them. And yes, they want fanservice. I once saw a video of part of an Imaizumi handshake, and she was so intent on the guest, very active, and doing all the little acts they loved.

    I think Karin feels too real and might be embarrassed to go that far. Some fans asked her about Ban over the weekend, and loved it when she responded by dancing a couple of moves from it. She's a dancer, not a talker. She seems to work hard at dance, at which she is very, very good. But perhaps it is hard for her to work that hard at something that does not feel real to her. Even if it would help her career.

    It's a conundrum. I don't know how she can or will solve it either. Centering a great single might help. And I have to believe that Takahiro is on her side. If popularity is all that counts, performance quality will suffer. Maybe Karin can learn, like Morita, to have some intimate little smiles that charm the fans without really being fake. And she really does seem to be smiling more than she once did.

    Of course, I myself find the idea that someone might not want to meet such a beautiful and interesting person totally baffling.
     
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  6. ukifune

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    I would never have believed it if I hadn't heard it. Karin talking and talking, relaxed and amusing, cool and rather adult. Is this the real Karin? Karin and Ozeki started a new radio show on Thursday, "Tokyo Speakeasy." It's produced by Aki_P and the main host was Touyama Daisuke (age 41) of the comedy trio Grunge. He did a lot of the talking, but neither Ozeki nor Karin was that far behind.

    Karin said she liked radio, although she didn't actually listen. She meant she liked to be on it, because she liked talking but the camera scared her, so she preferred radio. She and Ozeki both said they preferred talking with strangers rather than people they knew, and with older people in particular. Ozeki (at least I hope it was Ozeki) talked about starting conversations with people who were looking at her on the train, and even walking with them after getting off the train, even to her door, if they seemed okay. Watch out there, Ozeki!

    When Touyama praised her name, Karin-chan said no, she wished there was a shiro (白 "white") kanji in her name, something like Fujiyoshishiro Karin. It would seem more beautiful, like Shiraishi Mai 白石麻衣.

    The image of the show is that they are in a Tokyo bar at night, and we are eavesdropping on their conversation. Some good running translation from tmi on Twitter. Here's the show:


    if the video does not show watch the video here

    Actually, I could believe it because I'd heard Karin a bit like that before, on the "Face Smash フェイスマ" net game program. She was talking with somewhat older guys (~25-35) on that show, too....
     
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  7. too much idea

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    no she appeared in SOL and kochi hoshi already, the official fan club's radio too if you count that

    as for their preference, i don't think they mentioned a particular gender. the example toyama give to karin did was a male, while i think ozeki was kept to gender neutral as well
     
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  8. ukifune

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    a. Thanks, b. Good. I'll edit my post. Aural comprehension is not my forte.

    Was Karin as cool and interesting on those earlier radio shows? Thanks for your Twitter translations from this one.

    At 25:25, when she was asked what she would drink in the bar, did she actually say "I drank too much and was gone" or something like that? Was it an actual happening or an idea of what would happen? (She's almost 20 and her father does run a licensed restaurant.)

    Not many comments on the YouTube, but someone pointed that bit out. In any case, people thought the show was amusing. As I am thinking myself, as I listen to more of it.
     
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    1. I think she pretty much sounded like in Speakeasy. except official fan club radio where she sounded more comfortable

    2. The setting was a bar but they aren't (weren't?) acting like it, so toyama and ozeki give her the setting of a girl wearing dress and bag with glittering design and that's what she said to fulfill the role
     
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  10. ukifune

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    Yes. I think I'd now say: "If I drank too much, I'd be dead." She imagines it.
     
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  11. ukifune

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    Karin's father has a shabushabu restaurant in downtown Osaka. I came across a web page showing a couple of posts from the shop's Instagram account, written around the time she was being accepted into Sakamichi and Keyaki. He talks about going to Tokyo with her for an audition, and expresses his gratitude to her for her adventurousness: "O, my incredible daughter, thank you!"

    Here are translations of the posts.

    I've been re-watching the Karin part of the MTV Inside show (210228 MTV INSIDE - Sakurazaka46 ep02). Karin is indeed incredible. Her dance, of course, but also the interviews with her. The way she thinks about the songs in her own way, in what her father calls "Karin World." She sits there so elegantly, but the close-ups make her look like a serious, sensitive, and straightforward teen-age boy. Here's the video on the Chinese site bilibili (no subtitles). The only comment there reads: "Beautiful beautiful beautiful." I hope we soon get to see the MV of her new song Guuzen no Kotae.
     
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  12. dinbradpitt

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    You can read on karin father instagram (already deleted) on tread 2. I already post this.
     
  13. ukifune

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    Yes, now I see it. You even had the two-shot of baby Karin and papa with a dyed hair-streak (now deleted). Posted long before I started following here, unfortunately for me. I'd better go back and read this thread more carefully. Lots of good stuff to learn. Thanks for posting much of it.

    I'd also like to go back to the YouTube views of BAN that we were talking about in another thread. First, a new CM is out that may boost views (I only see a very poor video of it on YouTube so far). Second, a graph I saw shows that even over the first 24 hours, Karin's Naze Koi was the most viewed of the Nobody's Fault MVs. As of earlier today, views of the three Nobody's Fault MVs are like this:
    Naze Koi posted 17nov 6.639m views
    Nobodys Fault 10nov 5.051m views
    Buddies 27nov 2.708m views

    Karin's power of dance and emotion. Plus a good song.
     
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  14. Jsprite

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    ...plus a good choreo (with strings!)
     
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  15. dinbradpitt

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    https://t.co/VoYIzzWdsG?amp=1
    https://twitter.com/foxtrotal/status/1374348012403658752?s=19
    Karin latest blog

    「UNTITLED」 (2021.03.21)
    Fujiyoshi Karin

    “Guuzen no Kotae”s MV

    Has been released in YouTube

    It’s a very bittersweet youth
    I truly feel it from the bottom of my heart, my chest in pain, my feelings spring forward

    I thought about how amazing love is

    And it’s wonderful that there are various forms of love
    I thought that it should be free,

    I’m sure it’s something much more profound than that

    Or that is what I thought, despite being just 19 years old

    Above all, thank you Riko (^.^)

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    I was practicing how to pet Momo (the dog)
    I really did my best, and it was very cute
    I hope we can meet again somewhere

    I am thankful to everyone involved, including Director Hayashi



    Guuzen no Kotae has become a very important song for me
    I hope that many people could see it



    But well,
    I’m still so much in my youth I can’t quite come to grips with it yet

    Please watch
    as I take a step and start walking forward
    in the midst of such a youth!

    That aside, I was happy to meet her in TGC

    She was cute

    Fujiyoshi Karin

    Translator: toomuchidea
    Original Blog Link: https://sakurazaka46.com/s/s46/diary/detail/38258?ima=1101&cd=blog


    https://twitter.com/toomuchidea/status/1374369008175124482?s=19

    last convo
    riko: karin! long time no see
    karin: cute
    riko: ... oh, it's momo
    [dog moment]
    riko: i heard you're going to tokyo?
    karin: i'm thinking of becoming an actress
    riko: eh? why?
    karin: ... take care
    https://twitter.com/toomuchidea/status/1374348266733596680?s=19

    The karin center song is out

    if the video does not show watch the video here

    The dress is nice . totally difrent from nazekoi.i cannot watch the m.v yet .I'm on ship. The wifi so slow.will give the comment later .

    Maybe karin finally get the courage to get new friend ?
    Rika.?
    Maybe tribute to matsudaira riko. As karin lost her friend
     
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  16. Jsprite

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    Pardon my ignorance, but who is this other girl in the MV?
     
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  17. ukifune

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    My chest is in pain, too. Thanks, @dinbradpitt. Wonderful, simple MV. Graceful dances. Good acting from Karin.

    Perhaps a glimpse of early sakura from the station platform? Or were they plum-blossoms?

    And the final scene is at the top of Spain-zaka, below Parco. Spain-zaka (in Shibuya) is mentioned in the lyrics.

    "Riko"?! @Jsprite -- In the MV story, she is a classmate called "Riko".... Played by an actress/model called Nagase Riko. As it says in the translation of Karin's blog post, Karin met her at TGC.

    Art imitating life. How closely? Nice accidental(?) tribute to Matsudaira Riko, anyway. "Coincidence gives an answer" (one way of translating the title of the song).

    EDIT: I see some complaints in Japanese comments about the fact that an outsider is more featured than most of the other members. Also the interesting point that Karin continues to sing as "watashi", rather than "boku," as Hiichan does and Techi did.
     
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  18. Dill

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    I agree with people who aren't that happy about having an outsider shine more than Sakura members. Considering Te Wo has been one of the most loved song at concerts (and online concerts) Snf could have dared a little more. But I like to indulge in the fantasy that role should have been Riko's if things went differently, so I accept the mv as it is lol
    About the pronoun choice... Since the mv is about 2 girls, watashi should be more approriate then boku... right?
     
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  19. Jsprite

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    I thought atashi was more femenine?
     
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    If fans are complaining because they used watashi I don't wanna think what they would do if the pronoun used was exclusively for girls and women lol
     

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