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Hopes, Fears, and Predictions for 2020 (Nogizaka46)

Discussion in 'General Nogizaka46 Discussion' started by Seditious46, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Seditious46

    Seditious46 Next Girls

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Location:
    The north star of Nija
    Oshimen:
    Higuchi Hina
    With this thread, we can look to the year 2020 and express our hopes, fears and predictions for Nogizaka46.

    But first, I would like to look back a bit, and see how this year has been for my favorite group by reflecting on my entry last year.

    Hopes
    Good songs Not that many, actually. Music wise, it has been a weak year for my taste.
    New album There was a new album, but I was disappointed
    Hinachima becomes regular Senbatsu Not once :(
    More Junna, Ayatii, Maaya Maaya is much more present, which is great!
    Nogidan reanimated Nope
    Himachima PB please!!! Not yet
    Umezawa PB would be great as well Not yet
    A season of Nogibingo that is worthy of its name No Nogibingo this year

    I hoped for a lot, but little came true.


    Fears
    Bad songs Not many, most of them were mediocre though
    continuation of the 1st gen exodus Could have been worse
    early 3rd or 4th gen graduations None, yay!
    Bananaman graduation Didn't happen, yay!
    Ill / depressed members There were some absences, but nothing grave

    Most fears didn't come true, fortunately.


    Predictions
    2019 will be a year of transition, making Senbatsu announcements exciting again This happened, especially for the 24 single
    Ringo, Maichun, Misa, Manatsu and Miria graduation Only Misa, glad I predicted this wrong
    Mizuki PB Announcement and release Announced, but release will be early next year
    Ikuchan PB selling like hotcakes Totally
    Kiichan PB sales decent, not groundbreaking, but probably will become a personal favorite Totally

    Most predictions came true, although most were easy guesses.

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    Now, lets look to the future. These are my hopes, fears and predictions for 2020:

    Hopes
    • Increase in quality of music, more kami songs
    • A single that's as good as the 22nd (but I am afraid that's never going to happen)
    • More rotation in senbatsu
    • Hinachima PB please!!!
    • Umezawa PB would be great as well
    • A new show with an interesting concept
    • A new drama with Nogi members
    Fears
    • Decline in quality of music
    • Graduations of my favorites
    • Ill / depressed members
    Predictions
    • Asuka center, Sakura center, third one will be a new center
    • Ringo, Maichun, Ranze, Kanarin and Kazumin graduation
    • Mizuki PB selling like hotcakes
    • They are going to climb a mountain for one of the hit campaigns
    • Various 4th gen members become exclusive models
     
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  2. NyanNyan's Pet

    NyanNyan's Pet Next Girls

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Hopes:
    kiichan back and miria finally makes senbatsu - both happened with Sing-out!
    4th gen song around summer single - well not just one, but one song in each 2019 release
    kubo fukujin or at least back to senbatsu even 3rd row / center preferably 3rd single - done, except for center (not even a 3rd single) which I no longer hope for anyway
    stop the 3rd gen senbatsu push and only keep the top 5-6 members in - too much with Sing-out! but would have happened in the 24th if Momoko was healthy
    forget center, just give me another Ikuchan solo - nope
    go back inside the studio for next nogibingo (4th gen bingo if possible) - no more Bingo but got something better with Doko e
    if not, i want 1st gen vs 2nd gen vs 3rd gen vs 4th genbattle - Yes!!! best Kojichu eps for me

    Fears:
    ikuchan the next big name to graduate - Safe

    Prediction:
    asuka solo or w-center - Sing out!
    maiyan graduation - happy to be wrong here
    more graduation, at least 8 - Misa, Karin, Yuri, Reika. Four, but still some big names there. Plus, Inoue already announced her graduation next year.
    not all 3rd gen will enter senbatsu (likely, reno, mukai, ayati) - yup, and likely the same next year
    5th album, all 4 generation to have a song - A forgettable Album, but at least 4th gen already got 3 songs (not a fan of any but still ok)
    if we know management too well, they will airdrop a 4th gen/s whether senbatsu, fukujin or center - three 4th gen in front/Sakura center
    This coming 2020, almost the same but I'll be putting less

    Hopes:
    A vocal unit of Ikuchan, Kubo, Kaki & Seira
    For my favorite 4th gen girls - Kaki & Ayame stay Senbatsu, Seira enters Senbatsu
    Just give me 3 good single with 3-4 good songs each

    Fears:
    Ikuchan graduation

    Prediction:
    Can't think of any so I'll go with the easiest prediction. Asuka will center at least once and more 1st/2nd gen graduation

    I suddenly remember something. It was a dream in one of my afternoon nap. When I woke up, like it was real and so clear. Mizuki ang Yoda W-center
    I had another one about Karin/Miria, Hori and noisy Kitano. But it was all craziness so I'd rather keep the details.
    I guess it's too much Nogi for me.:D
     
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  3. Heelo

    Heelo Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2018
    Location:
    California
    Hopes:
    • Ikuchan or Mizuki get to center a single
    • No grads
    • I thought all the songs this year were on the more disappointing songs, so maybe at least one good song
    • Nogibingo comes back
    • No scandals
    • Nogichuu continues to be an enjoyable show
    Fears:
    • Scandals/graduations (especially Ikuchan) galore
    • Bad songs
    • Only one song (looking at you Keyaki)
    Predictions:
    • Graduations, mostly 1st and 2nd, going to bet on 7 grads this year. (Junna, Kanarin, Maiyan, Ringo, Shinuchi, Kotoko, Miria)
    • 3 singles
    • Mizuki centers one, Asuka centers the summer one, and a fourth-gen member centers the other one
     
  4. gish0046

    gish0046 Upcoming Girls

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Hopes:
    • Mizuki center
    • Kakki perma-fukujin
    • More singles like 24
    Fears:
    • 3rd gen graduations
    • Bananaman graduation
    • 4th gen scandal
    Predictions:
    • Mizuki photobook sell well
    • Mizuki center
    • More 4th gen in senbatsu, in particular Sayaka
    • The continuing rise in popularity of 4th gen
    • Kazumi graduation
    • Maichun graduation
    • Renachi graduation
    • Maiyan graduation. Possibly announcing at the end of next year then graduating in 2021 bday live
    • If Maiyan graduates, Sayuringo will announce her graduation shortly after
    • 1 more 1st gen graduation
     
  5. Kataomoi

    Kataomoi Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2019
    Oshimen:
    Ikuta-chan
    Hopes:
    • Ikuchan, Umezawa and Shirashi Mai Senbatsu Center Position
    • No 1st gen graduation Announcement
    • Better Singles than previous one
    • New Movie for Nogizaka46
    Fears:
    • Another 1st Gen Graduation announcement
    • Member illnesses, Mental exhaustion
    • Scandals
    • Low sales singles
    Predictions:
    • Another Endo Sakura Center Position
    • Better Quality Track for Under Members
    • Higuchi Hina Graduation Announcement
     
  6. Vapour

    Vapour Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2019
    Location:
    Side 3
    Oshimen:
    大園桃子, 賀喜遥香
    Edited this after hear Maiyan's graduation

    Hopes:

    • New Nogizaka Tv series/movies
    • Better song last year
    • Better Under song
    • More spotlight for Hayakawa Seira
    • Hinachima PB
    • 3 singles in a year

    Fears:
    • Bananaman graduation
    • Hinachima graduation
    • Scandal
    • Member illness/depression
    • bad singles/songs
    • Matsumura graduation

    Predictions:
    • Mizuki PB high sales
    • Matsumura graduation (I hope I was wrong in this one)
    • 25th single will have extremely high sales
    • Asuka, Yamashita, Miona, and Yoda will be the next faces of nogi
    • Hinachima and/or Ranze will be in senbatsu at least one this year
    • Center for 25th single will be Maiyan
    • Center for other single this year will be either Asuka, Yamashita, Yoda, or Sakura
    • Kakehashi Sayaka will enter senbatsu
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2020
  7. iainus

    iainus Future Girls

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Location:
    A Rainy Scottish City.
    Oshimen:
    Sakaki Miyu
    Hopes:
    • Better singles. Great songs rather than good ones.
    • More exposure for 2nd gen who have always been under-pushed, so to speak.
    • Less of the same. More varied senbastsu for the singles including more unders being given a chance to shine.
    • More member photobooks. And of the characterful members, rather than just the visuals.
    • More location shoots in Nogichuu. Also a PROPER Halloween episode like they used to do.
    • An ACTUAL summery summer single.
    • That their singles outsell Keyaki. Because they bloody well deserve to be outselling that lousy group.
    • Personally speaking, either a long hiatus or actual graduation of Sayuringo. I've never liked her, and she's somehow gotten more obnoxious, grating and inauthentic. It kills me that we've lost so many great members - especially from 1st gen - and she's still around. She's dreadful.
    • It'll never happen, but I'd love to see some kind of collaboration between Nogi and Hinata. Coupling track maybe?

    Fears:
    • Graduations, especially those down to illness/injury. And members graduating because they're being given nothing to do in the group - which is somehow worse.
    • That they'll introduce a new gen already. It's too soon. Do we REALLY need these new gens so often?
    • Scandals. Although they don't seem to be as impact as they used to.
    • Continued lack of exposure for some of the members.
    • Lack of direction and weak singles
    • That they'll be outshone and outsold by frakking Keyaki and their one single a year.
    • Losing either Nogichuu, Bananaman or both.

    Predictions:
    • Unfortunately, that Maiyan will graduate. Because it feels horribly inevitable.
    • Lots of 2nd gen graduations. They got screwed from the start, underpushed - aside from Hori - and have never been given the exposure they deserved.
    • That the first single of the year will be good, but not great.
    • The coupling tracks on at least one single will be better than the main track.
    • Multiple hiatuses, across all 4 gens.
    • That the last single of the year will be a knockout and will outsell all their other singles.
     
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  8. Seditious46

    Seditious46 Next Girls

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2017
    Location:
    The north star of Nija
    Oshimen:
    Higuchi Hina
    Can we please keep it civil and not throw mud at other groups? That's not why this thread was made.
     
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  9. Generic_User

    Generic_User Under Girls Stage48 Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2016
    Location:
    Isulando
    Oshimen:
    The Ikuta Erika

    Hopes
    A kami-level single where all songs rule
    A generational single like Synchronicity
    US concert
    Toki Toki Meki Meki joins the pantheon of crowd pleasers like House! and Romantic Ikayaki
    Nogidan album
    Junna, Yamazaki make senbatsu
    Ranze center

    Fears
    Dumb takes on idol culture and fandom from western media during the Olympics
    YAC graduates

    Predictions
    Umezawa photobook
    Olympics interferes with the summer tour
    1st Gen size will be in the single digits
    5th Gen in March
    4th Gen will bum rush the 25th single
     
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  10. paradisekiss

    paradisekiss Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2018
    Oshimen:
    Morita Hikaru
    Hopes:
    - Yoda centre
    -Yoda 2nd photobook
    - Asuka 2nd photobook
    -3 consecutive good singles like in 2015 2016 & 2018
    -The return of a summery single that rivals Hadashi de summer
    -Sayaka push
    -Less Kaki push
    -Less 3rd gen in senbatsu
    -The return of Nogibingo and going back to its quality before 2017
    Fears:
    -Mizuki & Kaki mega push continues (it’s annoying and lowkey unwarranted)
    -They’ll continue to lose their stand out members who are in 1&2ki and will be left with ..
    predictions:
    -Maiyan grad (I’m 50/50 on this. Her presence in Nogi would be sorely missed but I want her to really focus on her solo career I know she would do wonders)
    -5th gen arrival (I wouldn’t mind it 4ki arent really doing anything for me or anything in particular really)
    -They’ll swoop another JRA win if they don’t this year
    - A Yoda-Asuka or Maiyan-Asuka wcentre (maybe this is more hope)
     
  11. sambelteri12

    sambelteri12 Next Girls

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2018
    That's your problem, actually.
     
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  12. baymon

    baymon Next Girls

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Oshimen:
    Shiraishi Mai
    Hopes:
    - Momoko returns to front rows
    - Momoko to get more individual job (acting role or photobook)
    - More 2nd gens in senbatsu (I hope Kiichan becomes regular)
    - 3rd gens will not be neglected with the 4th gens push (I hope they are both push concurrently, friendly rivalry will be good for the group's growth)
    - Maiyan to get a good drama with a good role

    Fears:
    - Sales continues to decline
    - Ikuchan grads

    Predictions:
    - Maiyan grads (I don't put this as fears because I have resigned to the prospect of her grads for quite some time)
    - Mizuki becomes the new ace of 3rd gen
     
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  13. JuriRena

    JuriRena Next Girls

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2017
    Oshimen:
    生田絵梨花・桜井玲香
    I just hope for an IkuMai unit song with MV next year <3
     
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  14. Halyup

    Halyup Future Girls

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2016
    Location:
    Singapore
    Hopes :
    Shiori Fukujin
    Shiori Solo song
    Less Kaki push
    Push Seira More
    Momoko Fukujin
    Momoko 1st PB
    More outside jobs for 3ki
    Add Ranze to 2ki senbatsu
    4ki senbatsu should be Sakura and Ayamen for now(add Seira later )
    Less Yoda push

    Fears :
    Underwhelming 25th single
    Kaz grad

    Prediction:
    Nogi in Tokyo Olympics
    Kami song for Nogi in 2020
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2019
  15. MasToppu

    MasToppu Next Girls

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2016
    Location:
    Nusantara
    Oshimen:
    Kosaka Nao
    Hopes:
    - A center that can really sing aka Ikuchan.
    - Junna gets more stageplay and it would even be better if she gets a role in a drama.
    - Renacchi enters Senbatsu. She appears on many shows almost regularly, plus she even has her own show. So, it's reasonable to put her in Senbatsu.
    - Under Kami song, at least as good as Fuusen or even better than Fuusen.
    - Good main singles (Inochi or Synchronicity type song).
    - 3 singles in a year.
    - NOGITEN revival or a special show for Under!
    - MV with a story.
    - A good year for Nogi.

    Fears:
    - low-quality song(s).
    - Bananaman graduation.
    - the last member of Suika graduate.
    - Sakamichi collaboration song.
    - Nogi start to do bra-vure.

    Predictions:
    - at least 5 graduations.
    - more push on 4th gen.
    - 5th gen finally joins the squad.
     
  16. Kumosayi

    Kumosayi Kenkyuusei

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Oshimen:
    Kawata Hina
    Hopes:
    • Ranze in senbatsu
    • 2nd gen A-side center
    • Really just a non-1st gen A-side center
    • Iwamoto in senbatsu
    • 3 singles with 3 different centers (or 4 if W-center)
    Fears
    • Ikuta, Saito Asuka, Ranze grad
    Predictions
    • 3 singles
    • At least one Asuka center
    • Shiraishi grad + graduation center (though if luckly it'll happen next year)
    • 3rd-gen A-side center
     
  17. paradisekiss

    paradisekiss Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2018
    Oshimen:
    Morita Hikaru
    Did I ask.
     
  18. AloNeko

    AloNeko Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2015
    Hopes:
    Are i have any? I not sure :(
    Good drama serie without MG 5 style or these super powers... But if Aki write it then it less or more yankee story (again).
    Fear:
    Well... that are said already... but: Ikuchan.

    Prediction?
    i not going calc any sells... them are over up at so many times...
     
  19. minaeshi

    minaeshi Next Girls

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2014
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Oshimen:
    Morita Hikaru
    Twitter:
    minaeshit
    Hopes
    Continued push of 3rd and 4th gen so the group keeps afloat with the impending 1st and 2nd gen graduations
    No 5th gen until the end of the year, early 2021
    Umezawa photobook!
    3 singles, a kami level song, a super fun summer song, and a song with a story based mv
    Mizuki and Umezawa remain in/join fukujin
    Ranze and Riria in senbatsu
    Ikuchan and Maiyan center (but not because of graduation..)
    Nogiten and Nogibingo comeback
    Sakamichi annual summer concert (and have that be the only interaction they have lol)

    Fears
    More than 3 1st gen graduations.
    A 3rd gen graduation.
    Lots of hiatus' from new gen members
    Lack of participation from 1st gen members
    They release not so great singles (or even worse, just one single lol)


    Predictions
    Performance at Tokyo Olympics
    Sakura remains fukujin for all singles, Kaki and Ayami remain senbatsu for all singles.
    Asuka center, double 3rd and 4th gen summer single center
     
  20. Gofindnova

    Gofindnova Future Girls

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2019
    Hopes
    -Minami + Minami develop chemistry and becomes a pairing. Double Minami!
    -More Hinako with animals. More Yoda with animals.
    -Rena really leans into the dumb joke of announcing that she’s graduating when she graduates from college. Also have some kind of episode like a rematch of the “smartest in Nogizaka” when she does.
    -More longtime under members get into senbatsu.
    -Nogi keeps expanding to more non-stereotypical industries and activities. Attitudes soften further about what idols shouldn’t be or shouldn’t do, including the dating ban.

    Fears
    -News about Nanamin, beyond that she exists and is doing well.
    -Having over 46 members becomes normal.
    -Nogi getting dragged into issuing some political statement about Chinese nationalism.
    -It’s revealed that Nogi systematically overworks members or otherwise has bad working conditions.
    -Kitagawa becomes normal.
     
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