TV / Radio Majisuka Gakuen 4 (Jan 2015)

An hour long show is actually ~43mins long, minus commercials. MG4 eps are half-hour long. We see them as 20-23mins because some kind soul is cutting the commercials.

 

I now what I mean is 40~43 minutes without counting commercials like regular drama/serie.

@nathan_drake said 60 minutes. I thought he mean 60 minutes without counting commercials that's why I said 40~43 minutes.

 

Just wanted to point out that my way of seeing the drama is very, very simple, so i'm not concerned by @BeMyGuest 's statement by any beat lol.

 

Might just happen!

Mayuyu as Nezumi returns in Majisuka Gakuen 4 ep 10 according to https://twitter.com/video_vap/status/575597156867817472 " …
「マジすか学園4」最終回となる第10話にはネズミ役で渡辺麻友さんが出演します！"

 

Plot twist:

Kobii stabbed Antonio because even though Kobii isn't as strong as Antonio it turns out that Kobii was the reason that Antonio is at the top in the first place but Antonio have been taking Kobii for granted and show no gratitude towards her so Kobii became pissed off and stabs Antonio after she's beaten up by Sakura

Or

Kobii stabs Antonio while she's beating up Sakura because she felt guilty for Salt and when Kobii told Antonio to spare Sakura because she isn't the one Antonio wants and because they owe Majijo but Antonio refuses to do that and she leaves Kobii no choice

 

Maybe Salt will die in Season 4, and then come back as triplets like Yuko in Season 2!
Or maybe even quadruplets!!!!

And oh I like Nezumi, so I'm happy to hear that!!
But wait Jurina is making an appearance in ep 9 so O_O

The fact Mayuyu is appearing though, and Maachun hasn't appeared...so maybe she'll be in ep 10 trolling Nezumi hahaha.
And hmms Nezumi yeahh might very well be the evil mastermind pulling strings if she does appear. That would be greaaat.

I wanted to see Gekikara too, if they'll surprise me I'll be reaaaallly happy.
Gekikara can be Kobii's long lost cousin or something yeppp.

I really hope Episode 10 will be a complete all-star finale!

 

Just finished episode 8, LOVE IT. Gather round folks, got my OWN little observation quirks to brings:

1) Salt, The Tragic...Hero?

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So here we are, in the 7 episodes we were given about Salt, we know that:

• She's cursed and blessed with god-like fighting that she's bored to death
• She's brimming with energy to fight Sakura, someone she recognizes immediately of her strength, but yet wants her to take the proper steps in fighting her (going up the stairs, hitting each ladder like it's Mortal Kombat)
• She understands the power of her team, despite them losing. First you see the instant mental punishment she put on Yoga for losing, but yet, she recognizes that she was wrong in her thought and recognizes their effort. Now it's time to fight for them

SIDE NOTE: This sort of habit is very recognizable in movies/entertainment, where one gets so powerful that she gets bored, and hence affects her entire attitude, becoming someone complacent, neutral, apathetic, etc. Episode 7 is what changes that

So the question that needs to ask is:
WHY?

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Why save Milky? Granted she's being ambushed by not just a bunch of people, but the #2 person in Gekioko. To Salt, this is play; this is her WARM UP. We all seen her destroy not just the group, BAH EASY, but also #2 Kobii (Sorry Jyabu Jyabu is postponed brah). So now, you got your warm up, ready to fight Sakura, feeling good that you just straight up DESTROY your rivals (which oddly enough, if I recall, very little mention about Gekioko from Majisuka's mouths), and then as one should leave to fight your potentially BEST FIGHT...

SALT THROWS IT AWAY

SAVES MILKY FROM (potentially) DEATH

WHY?

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1. One could say that because Majisuka is perceived as the "good" school, it's bounded by story rules that Salt (the leader of the 'GOOD' school) should do a 'GOOD' act.
2. Another could say that because her 4 queens made Salt rediscover something she lost, perhaps emotion, this awakened more of herself and realization that a fight is a fight, but not one to lose a life over.

I say, VALID POINTS, but please, step into my office, take some notes, and be prepared to be potentially enlightened, whether you like it or not

2) TO KNOW THE FUTURE, YOU GO TO THE PAST TO SET YOUR PRESENT

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One thing (I hope they will) they need to convey is WHAT HAPPENED in the past. Remember, Antonio fought Salt in Middle School, and lost. That's all right? NO WE HAVE QUESTIONS

Did Antonio went to the same middle school as Salt?​

I say yes. Episode 4, there's a line where she said "She JOINED this academy so she can fight/revenge on her". WHICH LEDS ME TO BELIEVE THIS: If it wasn't for the case, Antonio would've joined the Majisuka. And because of rules and fights, she would have been one of the 4 queens (most likely). This also means: since Kobii knows of this information, and no one else knew, SHE MUST HAVE WENT TO THE SAME MIDDLE SCHOOL AND WITNESS THE ENTIRE THING UNFOLD.

3) Kobii, The Ultimate Suffer:

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Also, remember Antonio's saying before she departed the scene: "Once you said something, you can't take it back"

WHAT IS THIS THING SALT SAID THAT DRIVE THE THREE APART?​

I could only think of one thing, which Sakura said: I WANT TO TAKE THE TOP

My image is this: in middle school, Salt, Antonio, and Kobii were in the same class, and perhaps were the best of friends. Comrades in arms, beating everyone up, becoming the strong, becoming respected, becoming feared, just the three. And then one day, Salt said something that shakes up the entire relationship:

I WANT TO TAKE THE TOP

And since the three were the strongest, the only way to take the top is to fight amongst each other. Salt won. Antonio lost, and lost hard: not only she lost in the fight, but she lost a relationship. Kobii, being the weakest of the three, followed Antonio, to NURSE her mental wounds.

Now to the present, Salt is at the top, complacent, bored, and perhaps holding a secret that no one knows. She rarely acknowledges her group because perhaps, it reminds her of her past, how that all went away because of her ambition. She hates being the top; it destroyed her entire identity. She WANTS to lose. Hence, her secret admiration of Sakura, who she thinks can finally beat her. But because of pride, she can't just give it up away, you have to earn it, a Warrior's Pride.

Knowing the potential relationship of the three, that could explain WHY Salt saving Kobii, they knew each other. This also could explain the multiple complexities of Kobii: first sending people to take on Sakura because she wanted Antonio to be at ease with her mind of fighting/defeating Salt on her own terms, and then sending to fight Salt because perhaps, Antonio is getting to the same path that Salt was in middle school, and Kobii wants to prevent this from happening. She lost a friend once in Salt, she doesn't want to lose another in Antonio.

Now while this is completely ALL speculation, if this is true, my mind is blown. AMAZING

 

dream comes true, maybe Nezumi make plan to destroy Gekioko and just hope Torigoya/Black/Gekikara also back to help majijo.

I can't imagine what will happened to Gekioko if they all come back, maybe Gekikioko get a nuclear attack lol

 

@55Cyanides If this doesn't happen, you need to replace the current scriptwriters.

Anyway about that:

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This was what has been bugging me as well. I know Antonio had lost to Salt back in middle school, and Kobii clearly knew about it.
But we have no confirmation if Kobii was there during the actual fight or elsewhere.
Why this is important is because when Kobii approached Salt, didn't she introduce herself?
She went, "It's Kobii from Gekioko High School."
Don't you think if Kobii had been friends with her before, she would have went "Hisashiburi Salt" or "Long time no see Salt."
There was definitely some kind of relation between Antonio and Salt, but I'm not so sure between Salt and Kobii.
That's my only problem with that theory but otherwise, I think it's a possible theory.

But yeah, I too wondered about that Antonio line.
Like I don't think she is having such resentment towards Salt because she merely lost.
There's seems to be more in between the lines (ironically haha).

If I were to go with a similar theory as yours, I would say that maybe Antonio and Salt were first really good friends, and Kobii came later.
It could have happened just as you said but with only Antonio and Salt.
Maybe Kobii was someone at the side who always admired both of their strengths.
Then, the next question would be then, why did she end up following Antonio?

Because as you said, perhaps Salt's ambition was to take the top alone. And Antonio wanted to work together with others to get there.
So to Kobii who also yearned for the top, whose side is she likely to try to go? Antonio's.

And maybe that's why she's bothered about both Antonio and Salt because they both have a past together that didn't have her.
That they were both always the strongest and while she was just someone else there.
That one line she said, "With Salt, With Antonio, how am I different?!"
That frustration kinda showed how she wanted to be in the same level as them as she probably wasn't before.

As for why Salt saved Kobii if she didn't even know her, it may be because of the guilt she felt after what happened between her and Antonio.
Perhaps she knew Kobii being assistant head in Gekioko with Antonio was someone important to Antonio, and she wanted to somehow undo her wrongs, and didn't hesitate to save Kobii.

I think why Kobii began acting on her own is still true to what you say, that she didn't want Antonio becoming like Salt. Cause it was like Antonio said she'll fight for the top together, but she always seemed so bent on only Salt, and when Kobii tried to give opinions in earlier episodes, Antonio pretty much shot her down. Kobii probably didn't feel that Antonio was doing as she promised, and hence, she acted defiant towards Antonio. To her, she probably felt like Antonio didn't keep her word when it was most probably a misunderstanding because Antonio didn't realise what exactly Kobii wanted. She thought all Kobii wanted to do was jyabu jyabu when there was actually more to it than that. That's why she was surprised Kobii didn't look happy when they were finally going to attack Majijo because she had earnestly thought that was all Kobii wanted. Yes, Antonio's a little dense, and just wanted to provide the best situation for Kobii to able to jyabu jyabu in as well as carry out Gekioko's goal of reaching the top with as much unnecessary bloodshed.

About Gekioko, I think they'll come to a resolution when Kobii comes into terms of being the no. 2. I may have pointed this out earlier, but I'll say it again:
Years ago, Milky complained about how Sayanee was included in AKB senbatsu and she wasn't. And at that point, you'll be thinking if it was because Milky wanted to NMB's sole no. 1 or did she want to be the top even if meant sharing it with Sayanee. And I think it was the latter, that all she wanted was to be on equal footing. Coming back to MG4, I think this was implemented into the plot because Aki-P knows about all this. In fact, it was something Milky had complained about to him.

Because the Milky now compared to years ago is different. She learned to accept where she was, and matured, that being no. 2 didn't make her any less important to the group. So, I won't be surprised if Kobii goes through the same realisation within Gekioko, that the second in command doesn't mean she's useless or powerless.

And I think Kobii will perhaps realise that when she finds out that Antonio actually cares about her and doesn't treat her as less important just because she's second in command. Obviously, this is more hopeful since I can't say for sure that it'll happen, but I don't think Antonio will be mad at Kobii for ambushing Salt when she finds out about everything that happened in the entire situation. For someone who cares so much about her underlings, what more about her second in command? If anything, she'll be mad at Kobii for putting herself in danger like that. I mean she did almost get seriously injured and could have even died if it wasn't Salt. I think, at this point, she would value the lives of the people she cares about more compared to her own ambition. She'll realise how she's been not being considerate enough about Kobii's feelings, and have been taking her for granted. And it'll end with their working relationship being stronger than ever, just like how SayaMillky helped to bring NMB forward after they both could settle their differences and fight for a common cause.

I mean think about it, in the main cast, in Majijo, Paruru and Sakura got the main casts because they're the highest ranking members there. The 4 Queens are the next 4 high ranking people in the elections. Everyone else who ranked below did the other roles like Team Hinabe, Kamisori and Zombie etc.

They pretty much followed their hierarchy. But look at Gekioko. I actually feel abit for Suda Akari who played Tsurishi for this because she was a very high ranking senbatsu member, but Milky pretty much leap-frogged her and got the more important role as Gekioko's second in command. In other words, that SayaMilky pairing at the top of Gekioko was very deliberate. Perhaps people may think it's merely because of their popularity as NMB's Top 2. And I agree with that, but because they have done that, it's the point of no return, and there's no doubt they'll be bring in some real life allusions to the two because of that.

 

hum, since Milky introduced herself as Kobii from Gekiojo, it's pretty much sure Salt and Kobii didn't knew each other before meeting on the sidewalk.

Milky tortured soul to be recognized by her peers ( Antonio) makes her one of the most interesting character in Majisuka, even though she didn't appear that much.

 

Damn good points! But if that's the case, I still believe that the evidence that the three were in the same middle school still stands? Then, if Kobii and Salt knowing each other is proven to be false, how about:

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1) Salt and Antonio, at one point, were known to be the TWIN TOWERS of power in their school, always working together and fighting together to become the best.
2) Kobii, in awe of Antonio, wants to become a part of the group, and sticks to Antonio, much like how Team Zombie follows around Sakura. Most likely, she just follows around Antonio because she adores something in her, something that Salt doesn't have.
3) In the midst of the TWIN TOWER era, Salt decides that she WANTS TO TAKE THE TOP, and in order to do that, betrays the relationship she had with Antonio.

If the events like this happens, this explains the Kobii nickname. Perhaps she follows Antonio around as an underling throughout her entire time, and was rewarded as being a #2 due to her loyalty. However, being recognized as #2 because of loyalty and being recognized as a #2 because you earned it are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. So the actions she does, it's just bring favor to her main queen, Antonio, to recognize that she is strong.

If you ask me, Kobii is the alternate reality of Team Zombie/Yoga; she follows Antonio but isn't communicated directly that she's recognized of her power and actions; seems to be more of a loyalty thing.

 

What sense does that even make? In the history of all history who goes into a fight wanting to lose? So your saying Salt's motto should be "I fight to lose"?

 

Have you seen movies/entertainment where someone gets to the top, only to figure out it's not what it comes to be?

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You get to the top. NOW WHAT. WHAT DO YOU DO?

That seems like Salt is suffering from that, the boredom, being not satisfied. I'll find examples of this sort of thing happening, where the person at the top actually wants to leave but can't, due to image. If someone at the top has to leave it'll be in the face of battle.

You lose so you gain something important; you gain your humanity back. Being the top isn't all that cracked up to be. Sit tight, I'll come with examples from movies and entertainment to show this is the case

It's a complex feeling and hard to understand at first, but if you recognize it a lot, you'll understand it.

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Though the status quo changed slightly at the end of episode 7, I recognize that; when see finally realize her 4 queens in their seriousness. I will say pre-episode 7, she had that mentality of boerdom and just putting on image of being the top, though she was just desperately bored and cursed. Perhaps that's how she was before Sakura showed up.

Episode 7, she potentially found her will to fight, for her queens, as opposed to finding an escape. However, be that as it may, if/when Sakura and her fight and if/when she loses, she'll take it graciously and hopefully become a mentor to Sakura, who may suffer the same thing she did being the top; bored, complacent, wants to escape.

In other words, if/when she loses, she won't pull a Shibuya

 

For those who read the manga "claymore" can understand what Cyanide means. To be an outstanding monster, you feel alone. To find someone who can bring her "defeat", Salt is not lonely anymore. That's why she is thrilled to fight with Sakura. I won't go as far as saying she wants to loose, but more like Salt wanted to meet someone strong enough to eventually beat her.

 

You guys are right, perhaps I used the wrong phrase of "wanting to lose". Like gocchisama says, more of finding someone who can beat her, to relieve her of this cursed loneliness. Good change of words for my benefit @gocchisama

 

Oh god I hope not.... The Yuko twins thing makes me wonder why we all remember the early Majisuka series so fondly! Almost as bad as Acchan eating flower petals.

 

I for one found...what were their names...Yuka and Yuki (hahaha) as kinda hilarious. It was ridic but I enjoyed it somehow haha. Acchan eating flower petals was pretty pointless but hey, look at what a trademark it is now! Years later, I understand its appeal now hahaha.

Yeahh @55Cyanides it's still likely that all three were still in the same middle school, just that Kobii probably wasn't directly involved with Salt.

And that theory behind Kobii's name:

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Dude, that's incredible!! I didn't even think of that.
If you put it that way, that would actually explain a lot of Kobii's actions.
The reason why she kept acting on her own, and how she couldn't be honest and just confide to Antonio.
It's maybe because she felt herself felt inferior to Antonio and couldn't bring herself to do it.
As you said, I think she wanted to earn her position.
Interestingly then that would explain why the Gekioko girls refer to Antonio as Antonio-neesama and Kobii just as Kobii-san.
I always found that as a lil odd because in my mind, the difference in power between Head and Vice shouldn't be all that different but yet, Antonio seems to be revered a lot more compared to Kobii.

And you're right, I think parallels in the schools (comparing Kobii to Yoga and Kamisori/Zombie) would make a lot of sense.
It's kinda how people would say how the parallel of WMatsui in SKE is SayaMilky in NMB in 48terms.
I mean it's using that concept.

If we're talking about parallels, in Majijo, Rappappa are represented by the people in the Wind Instrument Society.
The top is decided by defeating everyone in the school in deciding who the most powerful is.

In Gekioko, they also have a society/department in power, and that is the Nursing Department.
How the school works is unclear but perhaps it was similar where Antonio had fought everyone to reach the top.
And as you suggest, perhaps it was Antonio herself who nominated Kobii to be her vice instead of Kobii earning the position for herself.

For one thing, Tsurishi seems to be in full admiration for Antonio but appears to act normally around Kobii, and doesn't even appear to fear her.
So yeah, it's very likely Kobii hasn't done anything to prove why she is in that position and perhaps she didn't want to be in a position just because of her relations with Antonio. She wanted to be truly acknowledged for her power, and not just by name or rank.

 

Salty and Saltier would work for the names lol.

 

She'll have quadruplets instead, and it'll be Salt, Salty, Saltier and Saltiest

 

I think this kobi being number two out of loyalty theory is just a bit overdramatic. Kobi is implied to be able to beat mirurun and fuuchan and was actually able to "command" them even though they're strong enough to be independent from Antonio. And those two easily beat kamisori/zombie, who in turn easily beat team hinabe, who in turn beat five normal gekioko students. Kobi can also order around those 8 or 9 flunkies that ambushed salt. She's been shown to act with strength around other gekioko students. With all that, kobi seems to be around queen level and is the 2nd strongest in gekioko by her own strength. That salt beat her easily, implies salt is that much stronger, period. So yeah kobi knows about antonio's past but it's not uncommon to confide in your 2nd in command. Maybe she helped antonio take the top in gekioko.

What's puzzling with kobi is that she seemed eager to jyabu jyabu early on but in the latter parts, she seemed to not agree with how antonio is going on about things even at the point when they're ready to attack. I can understand wanting to attack earlier on, but why the disagreeing face when they were ready to attack. Maybe she realized antonio's plan is to take on salt one on one and she actually fears that antonio will lose (which would be devastating to antonio) -- her ideal plan might be to use numbers to defeat salt. Anyway, the kobi character seems to be a successful one.

As for salt, it was said she got to the top because she didn't want to follow anyone else so I doubt if she would want to lose to sakura and follow her. Unless she's so "bored" that she now wants someone else to take over. But with how light the plot is and everything being really simple, maybe she just wants a strong opponent.

Overall, I really like this season. The fights are that much crisper and longer too. Improving the story a little bit will really just improve it a little bit. This drama is about akb group fighting each other so just improving the fight sequences is enough for me. Will be a letdown though if sakura vs. salt doesn't happen.