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NGT48 Assault Case

Discussion in 'General NGT48 Discussion' started by Cisalpine88, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. ayyu

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    In what world do you accidentally attack someone?
    If someone didnt interrupt the attack who knows how far it could of gone.
    If maho started screaming would they have suffocated untill she passed out to keep her quiet? Left bruises? Maho not knowing if she is going die.

    for them to grab her like that to trying to force themselves into her room, they must of know Maho wouldnt be a willing participant or react badly to them knocking at her door. because thats all they had to do if they wanted to talk to her. why the ambush


    even in your own theory/conclusion- there would be no blame on Maho. Its management incompetence and irresponsible behaviour of other members.

    Lets assume your general theory is correct

    You come home to the dorm from work, your about to go into your room when known associates of your colleague suddenly burst through from a room where you assumed your colleague lived. They attack you( you dont dispute she was attacked- only that they didnt mean it).
    What are your first thoughts afterwards when they tell you other members are involved?

    1. how did they know when i was coming home? who told them?
    2. why did they come out of my colleague room???? she is clearly involved somehow.
    3. you are calling other members to come explain- how many of my co workers where involved?

    these are reasonable assumptions. Especially if there has been member rivalries or possible tension amongest the members(teamN, team G).
    Those criminals should of not have known when she came home or been across the hall. The negligence of staff and those members allowed those circumstances to happen and should of been investigated by management with consequences.
    Maho spoke out because they buried it. What would prevent same thing from happening again? The mental and emotional pain of the assault, the fear of it happening again.
    she knew when she made that showroom it would probably lead her to be blacklisted/ending her career . And thats what AKS would of done successfully if there wasent such a surprising strong reaction from the public. She made that video at her breaking point, she had to kept it quiet for months.

    From what management and the criminals said i think its possible the criminals where squatting in tanos room, and at the very least tano told them she moved and where to find the key. Her moving out (if she moved out) was not common knowledge even to fellow members.


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  2. ForrestFuller

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  3. Cisalpine88

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    I promised to myself to keep myself away from this discussion due to how accursed the matter is (and it certainly doesn't help that this forum keeps having a stroke for most part of the week), but screw me -- I'm coming back just for a little follow-up.
    If someone remembers the tweet above that Maho had posted during the AKS press conference at the release of the research report, then it turns out that a briefing of the the first ever visit of "those three people" (Matsumura, Hayakawa, and the ever-irrelevant Okada) to the prefectural offices of Niigata, the one that Maho was referring to in that tweet, was retrieved by the members of Secret Night, a group keeping track on the case.
    In fact, given how it is itself a public document in the Prefecture archives, it can be normally requested for information disclosure at the right department, hoping it is marked as available for release, as the guys did manage to.

    The video showcasing the document can be found here, but it turns out it was more irredeemably awful than expected. Attention goes to the first page in particular -- I imagined this was a desperate sort of damage control, but this goes more right into defamation, all to save their own business, with the way it tries in particular to downplay the very own incident before your money-lenders. I see trying to discredit your own people behind their back is all too commonplace in AKS. Well, kudos to Maho for having put up with this shitty group long enough as she did...:

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    AKS's visit to the department (for information sharing purposes)

    Date: January 22, 2019 (Tuesday), 17:15~17:25
    Venue: Meeting hall #301
    Guests: [blacked out (30 characters)] of AKS
    Hosts: PR supervisor Sugiyama, Chief Sekine and Assistant Chief Enoki of the Department of public information, PR officer and Chief examiner Ichimura

    Discussion summary:
    [AKS [blacked out (6 characters)]]
    ・ Today we have made a courtesy call to various medias, and only the journalists at (Niigata) Nippo, from their Digital division, had intervened and it resulted in a sort of interview. That makes us think that, quite possibly, it will be published (on the WEB section) by the morning issue due out tomorrow, or at some point onward, we don't know exactly.
    ・ We were pelted with quite some questions, we answered about what we could, and that ended up being written up on the notice accordingly.
    ・ (On the matters of NGT's Yamaguchi Maho) We were pressed about the incident.
    There's some talk coming up in various places about whether or not Yamaguchi then went out to the park, but bottom line is that Yamaguchi herself was addressed by voice and so she let out a loud scream out of surprise. It's not that she had her head grabbed or anything like that -- since it would be like, you know, (Turn into a commotion? Be noticeable?) if she stayed into the building, she thus moved out to the park and there a talk ensued for around an hour. Since she herself (Yamaguchi) says to be the victim so she is assumed to be -- also as the perpetrators explained about what the circumstances were like, she herself brought up the names of a variety of members, it is at that place that the names were brought up. Following that, they then got in touch with the staff through a member and afterwards the staff, said member, and the perpetrators had a discussion at the park. At that time Yamaguchi was not in her right mind, but after hearing the discussion, the staff contacted the police and [blacked out (7 characters)] and sometime later they were handed over to the police, that's roughly the way we had the chance to relate about it.
    ・ Concerning the fact that the perpetrators were in the same building as where the members were living, it's that the perpetrators did actually live in there. The perpetrators [blacked out (38 characters)] moved in there. (As an agency) we did not borrow all of it wholesale. Point is, after that the perpetrators then went to reside inside (that building). What we have come to discuss up to this point is all content that we could manage to fact-check.
    ・ Apart from that, there were various rumors coming up surrounding Yamaguchi, as in how there could possibly be this member, or that other member who..., and such like, but even the management side doesn't have an understanding of it, regarding that. (One can speculate if maybe) also as a result of this, (the perpetrator) was ruled without prosecution. The members (referred to by the rumors) are currently undergoing questioning. We did hear that as well, but frankly speaking we have no idea. For this reason, we are tasking a third party committee with examining on it.
    ・ As told just now, we had a talk on concrete terms, we don't know whether or not it's going to be published as an article, but we encouraged them to please keep it off the record. We can't tell what decision was taken as a result, which is why we hastened to give a notice to the Prefecture of Niigata.

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    [PR supervisor Sugiyama]
    ・ As he is waiting for an official comment from the third party committee, he thanked for dealing with it in a precise manner.

    [AKS [blacked out (6 characters)]]
    ・ As for the third party committee, like it was explained yesterday, we are preparing so that it will be set up within the current week, or at least so that we can make an announcement by the beginning of next week at latest. There won't be any changes in schedule.

    [Department Chief Sekine]
    ・ We'd like that vital information will keep being shared.
    ・ As of late, the complaints directed at the Prefecture are changing. About that (video about the) duct tape or something, we don't know what to make of it.

    [AKS [blacked out (6 characters)]]
    ・ We managed to confirm with the manager that what made it into the news article isn't true, but as for the members having done a similar thing, we'll check later.
    ・ It's a question of morals, it also has to do with the self-awareness of the people involved, so we'd like to go on and educate them.

    [Department Chief Sekine]
    ・ The concern from the people of the prefecture and the public at large is great, or to put it better, don't you find you are being made into a public presence, to a certain degree...
    ・ Requesting that information be shared even from here on.

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    All in all, apart from the fact that not a single detail of what is inside was truthful to reality in the end (even the talk "in the park" lasted <8 minutes before the staff bus arrived, why lying?), it also explains a lot of suspicious things that occurred back at the beginning of this controversy. The way how right after Maho's reveal, several lowly news outlets (Sponichi, Tokyo Sports, Josei Seven, along with a certain disinfo account, and who still remembers the first ever Shuukan Bunshun broadcast?) seemed to give the same fanciful account of the incident at once (as credited to a certain "NGT48 informant") which didn't match with anything that was out so far or even what the police acknoweldged. The fact any of them preferred to go with this story, even if for a short amount of time, should reasonably brand them as lapdog media of AKS.
    Also, the way the NGT management seemed to react as hilariously strong as they did about that duct tape thing (which is because they were pressured by the very people that pay for their existence), but not at all to what Bunshun was spewing out in the meantime (that's because they themselves were the source spreading these stories, at least partially, as it is revealed).
    Not to mention, the reaction of the sponsors shortly after the release of the third party report and the following press conference, when they cut off all contracts with AKS, which in light of all this is absolutely appropriate and justified if you were to read inside and come to the realization you have been bamboozled all along. If you lie to the organizations that give you help funds, only to make sure they'll keep giving you money as before, then losing their support is a more than just punishment in anyone's book.
    I hope NGT48 won't see another deal with local firms ever again, not without a pair of very powerful binoculars at least. "Work to regain trust" my ass, they really did bring everything upon themselves after all, and I don't feel the least bit sorry.
    You are trying to figure out who "is lying the most", as you said yourself, so as to see where to shift the blame, but you already had the first prize in your hands since the beginning, Yoshinari.
    Goodbye. Also shame on any who still thinks of giving them a little bit of benefit of doubt.
     
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  4. Reveen

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    From the start AKS have been engaged in "black propaganda" against Maho. They've spread stories about her being mentally unstable and having connections with the perpetrators, Instead of getting behind Maho and supporting her 100%. "Blame the victim" is a stereotype of Japan but in this case it seems to be a policy of AKS and especially of it's boss Yoshinori. Rather than having empathy for Maho, she treats her like an enemy.

    Even when Maho leaves her company the black progaganda continues, a couple of weeks before Maho's photobook release they intensified again as if AKS wants to spoil Maho's comeback. An interesting entry on Saitowinterstar's blog about AKS being a stakeholder of Taishu group who just incidentally happen to be engaged in spreading rumours and allegations about Maho.

    One of the papers that has dealt fairly with the case was Niigata Nippo, I was hoping for a follow up to this entry on SWS blog but I can't remember seeing a conclusion from Hoshi.

    Hoshi.jpg
    The reason behind the attack has always been one of the most questionable issues. The "we just wanted to talk to her" excuse has always seemed lame and lacking credibility. Maho going to management about the "consortings" prompting yakkai to confront Maho over the possibility of their fun and games being interrupted seems more credible.
     
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  5. Ashitaba

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    No assailant ever "just wants to talk". I always believed such an excuse is BS.
     
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  6. sin

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    We still need to fight.
    Maho, Riko & rena have gained new places and new opportunities.
    However, the organization remains unchanged.
    The same will happen sometime.

     
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  7. Reveen

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    A post I saw on facebook recently I thought was amusing

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  8. Cisalpine88

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    Looks like AKS, and Sponichi to which it is beholden for more than obvious reasons, after months of nonstop attempts at passive-aggressive provocations toward Maho have finally committed the proverbial "shitting out of the potty", which resulted in Maho having to come out on Twitter just a few moments ago to roast them publicly. Now, for those who don't religiously follow @SaitoWinterStar 's daily translations about the updates on the assault case, for whose work I can't thank him enough, I'll put it briefly and first explain on the progress of what it is too generous to call a "civil lawsuit" (some irony added except where's specified otherwise).

    A recap of the previous episodes:
    1) AKS sues the two (yeah, they spared the third guy for reasons unknown) for damages, based on the disingenuous reasons I have covered more than enough some time ago by translating AKS's lawsuit paper.
    2) Perpetrators: "We, we do not mean to fight AKS. Here, we'll freely collaborate to show I had private consorting with Yamaguchi since before and how it's all her fault only"; AKS: "Oh yeah, forget about the reparations, even though the point of contention is entirely about how the assault stopped our activities and how your actions ~made Yamaguchi believe~ other members were involved in it. If you make new statements, then provide new evidences about it, pwease... [rubbing of hands intensifies]"
    (note: the last sentence is as real as ever, said at the end of last month's court sitting, in fact)
    3) Fast forward one month, to a couple of days ago, when the dumbasses finally produce what the same cohort of lapdog media (Sponichi on top of the list, of course) reports in unison as being "evidences of private consorting with Yamaguchi". At the sorry excuse for an on-location interview, the poor lawyer on AKS side is forced to play his part and express how "he can't deny the compelling power of it" in front of them (seriously).
    To the question posed by some unnamed journalist that "Are you possibly moving the point of contention of the court case to the consorting with Yamaguchi [and the perpetrators]?", the AKS lawyer just hops out of the Trojan horse since why even hiding it anymore and replies "We can also take this outlook, perhaps. Since this would lead to determining whether or not an assault occurred." (seriously)
    Now, stop a little to re-read the last part, because it's the most troglodyte, knuckle-dragging, dim-witted statement you'll probably ever hear this side of the Talibans. The basic premise is -- you understood it well -- that if AKS lets the assailants prove they had ~private contact~ with Maho, then it means that an assault couldn't possibly have taken place, which in turn would on their plans convince the judge that AKS did nuffing wrong. Try imagining this argument used in a case of, say, domestic violence, to understand just how backwards and plain retarded it can get.
    Also yeah, a lawyer is trying to take over the role of both the investigation police and the prosecutors.
    Oh, and maybe I should have also told you that they have come so far with this farce and AKS has not yet contacted Maho once while they proceeded as they pleased with this joke of a civil lawsuit. Even more ridiculously, the AKS lawyer replied how they are still "thinking about it" on the possibility of having Maho show up as the sole testimony (seriously).
    Legally speaking, Maho is in fact a third party uninvolved to it, since she is neither on the defendants or the plaintiffs side, despite both sides having clearly a bone to pick with her and the whole talk revolving exclusively around herself. Seriously. Add to it that in a civil lawsuit neither the defendants nor the plaintiffs can be charged for perjury for the crap they each spew (seriously), and it's no wonder that people already sniffed out that this is a plain old instance of "collusive lawsuit".
    4) At this point AKS's personal-use media are on a trip and, being above themselves as they are, publish ~as an exclusive~ said evidences.... Of course, it couldn't be anyone else but Sponichi to do so. Anyway, wanna have a little laugh?
    One, two...
    EIERZ2_UEAEFEWQ.jpg orig.jpg

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    Now, with this whole nonsense out of the way, here are the responses by Maho from today:

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    スポニチさんが名誉毀損すぎるのでもう関わりたくないけど言わせてもらいます。ファンの方はご存知の通りイベント写真会はリクエストされたポーズをします。それをカメラ目線でやるので相手が何のポーズしているかもほぼ分かりません。AKB新聞やってて写真会の仕組みも分かっているはずなのに酷すぎる
    https://twitter.com/maho_yamaguchi/status/1189307747273269250

    Sponichi is going over the line with the slander, which is why I want nothing to do with them anymore, but let me just say one thing. As any fan should know, at these photo-shooting events you would strike the pose that you have been requested. And since you would do it while staring at the camera, you don't basically know what kind of pose the other side is doing in the meantime. They run AKB Shinbun, they are supposed to know how such photo-shooting events work, but this is just awful.

    [Quoted tweet:
    スポニチが「山口真帆と主犯がツーショットで、お互いの部屋番号を表す写真を撮っていた!」とあたかも個人的なつながりがあるかのようなこと書いていたけど、そんなもん、チェキ会では客からリクエストされたポーズで撮るの基本。山口さんに意味を知らせずに撮影することなんて誰でも出来るw(続く)
    https://twitter.com/rupazo/status/1189290449158184963

    Sponichi just wrote a piece as if there were any sort of private consorting [note: between Maho and the culprits], to the tone of "In this two-shot of Yamaguchi Maho and the culprit, they took a photo of themselves showing each other's room number!". You know, about that, at cheki-kais it is the norm to take photos doing poses you are requested from the venue-goers. Having a photo taken with Yamaguchi-san without letting her know about the meaning behind it is something just about anyone can do. lol (continues)

    Tweet below from the same thread tree:
    (承前)これを持って、繋がりがあったことに出来るなんて考えるのは、山口さんの立場を悪くしたいと考える人間と、それに加担して一枚儲けに絡みたい奴らだけだろ。そういえばスポニチさんもAKB新聞発行することなって大変ですもんねえw
    https://twitter.com/rupazo/status/1189290676908900352

    (continuing) The ones who hope that by using those [note: photos] they can make it seem there was any consorting are either the people who think of undermining Yamaguchi-san's position, or those goons acting as enablers who want to gamble their all only on that. On the subject, when you think how Sponichi is also the one that publishes AKB Shinbun, things get thorny, y'know... lol]

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    独占入手って昨日の裁判資料?横流ししてもらった以外何があるんだろう? 襲われたら会社に謝されて、メンバーにはSNSで嫌がらせされて、辞めてからは他のメンバーがやってたことを私のせいにされて。こんな会社ある? 犯人との私的交流は現メンバーが認めてるのに。出してないけどその音声もあります
    https://twitter.com/maho_yamaguchi/status/1189320193669029890

    By "obtaining it as an exclusive", they are referring to the court trial material from yesterday? Is there another way, outside of them having received that from under the counter? After I was assaulted I was forced into apologizing by my own agency, I received harassment on social media from other members, and then once I have quit from the group, they are trying to pin the blame on me for things that other members had been doing. Is it even possible for such an agency to exist? Never mind the fact that there are current members who have admitted to having had relationships on a personal level with the criminals. They haven't been released yet, but there actually are also voice statements about that.

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    いや、「俺も写真会でポーズ指定して2ショット撮ったから繋がりの証拠ww」ってイベントの写真送ってくるのやめてください[​IMG]
    イライラしてたけど笑っちゃった[​IMG]
    皆さんありがとう[​IMG]
    https://twitter.com/maho_yamaguchi/status/1189328855129116672

    But really, stop replying with photos from events while saying "I too asked for a specific pose at a photo-shooting event and took a photo, so that too counts as evidence of consorting lol" [​IMG]
    I was furious before, but I couldn't help laughing. [​IMG]
    Thank you, y'all.
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    My only hope is that NGT48 won't last long enough to see the end of the year, at this point. Nothing more.
    And to think I even had a pious church boy accusing me on DM once that it's me who is on a "petty revenge hunting" in all of this story, as he personally put it. Pfeh. Don't huff too much frankincense during Mass, dudes. ;)
     
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  9. wlerin

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    Yeah can't imagine why they'd spare the bystander who had nothing to do with the assault and barely spoke in the park.

    edit: My mistake, slipped my mind that he was the one who asked whether Mahohon was on the bus. He's still not one of the attackers, and didn't make the misleading claims that are the basis of the suit.

    Your source linked here says the opposite. 「証拠として不十分だ」"There's not enough evidence."「説得力が足りないと思っている」 "I don't think [their argument] is compelling." All of your translations appear to be pulled from the Tokyo Sports article, which publication has been hostile to AKS since the beginning. Based on the Daily Sports article which you've also linked, the "I'm not denying the weight of evidence" seems to be him lawyering out of his earlier statement that they don't have enough (which ToSpo omitted, or maybe even got wrong)--it's not his business to determine that, it's up to the judge. I don't want to spend too much time analysing the specific wording since all of the articles disagree with each other in one way or another, and it's difficult to tell what his actual statements were in those cases.

    I also don't want to waste time untying all other the little twists and omissions you've made of this case (e.g. the 30 million yen is still the reason for the trial).

    The submission of two-shot photos with Mahohon is a bullshit attempt at defamation by the attackers, but that evidence is no more ridiculous than similar used (including by you) to slander other members of NGT during the 10 months prior to this.

    The irony of these two lines together.
     
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  10. Cisalpine88

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    >Yeah can't imagine why they'd spare the bystander who had nothing to do with the assault and barely spoke in the park.
    Consider that the purported point of contention here, at least before the bait-and-switch, is not the assault but the assault PLUS the statements that followed afterwards at one point or another during the investigation, there's no reason to spare him who is the chief suspect of consorting with other members. Also, please let's not even try to pretend that "they are just the assaulters acting on their own, we have no responsability for what they do", it's just another way to pass the bucket for your own actions while pretending to play dumb and washing your hands of it, especially when you see how the AKS lawyers act complacent and unresponsive to the actions of the other side of the lawsuit, even in front of stupid shit that in fact they personally were blatantly begging for. Even if it's bullshit claim, you can rest assured AKS isn't even trying to challenge them. They couldn't care less about defending Maho back when she were in the group, much less nowadays that she is no longer under their care. Hell, remember the audio recordings they are supposedly holding against the culprits? They didn't even submit them for evidence, which means that they won't be taken into account when evaluating the criminals' claims! Looks like they are unsatisfied with the first take and they are rejecting it for a second round...
    By the way, the only metrics in a civil case is to determine how deserving one side is of reparations for a purported wrongdoing, anything beyond claims concerning the stated point of contention is pure Chewbacca Defense...

    Oh, and by the way... Sponichi in particular was one of the most digusting asslickers on AKS's part during this entire shameful story, if they thought that they had carte blanche on directing personal attacks on Maho after graduation, they thought wrong. You should really remove the slices of bologna from over your eyes and read article they had cooked up for Mofu's graduation, to get a clear idea: it was one petty jab at Maho after another that doesn't even begin to deal with the theater show itself, not only completely distorting what Mofu said on her social media (hint: the reason she chose to sing Sekai no Hito he was NOT what Sponichi claimed at all) but putting it into her mouth expressions or implications she never made but were all suspiciously in line with the management's narrative.
    By the way, the one who wrote that piece of shit was probably the same Setsu who writes on AKB Shinbun, lol. Glad that rag is no longer sold on shelves.
     
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  11. Reveen

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    I'd love to be a fly on the wall of AKS's strategy meetings, is this the best that their big-brain management could come up with? Did they think that based on previous evidence (like the infamous press conference in March where maho wrecked AKS) that Maho would stand idly by and let herself be destroyed by AKS and the yakkai in this courtcase? Did they maybe think that Ken-On would muzzle Maho because she was under contract and her social media would be controlled by the agency? Have they learned nothing?

    AKS has lost AKBshow, ANN, AKBingo, 2019 SSK, their new centre but what they choose to concentrate on is throwing Maho under the bus? Is this some kind of obsessive-compulsive fixation by Yoshinori? It's fascinating in an awful kind of way. I'm glad at least that Maho is choosing to remain the adult in the room in all of this.
     
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  12. wlerin

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    Yeah that article is pretty bad. Almost as low a ratio of facts to biased personal interpretations as your post just above.

    Does he even write for Sponichi? They just publish AKB Shinbun, that doesn't mean he's suddenly become a staff writer.

    And jokes on you, it's even easier to obtain now lol
     
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  13. Cisalpine88

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    In addition to these tweets above, there's also this screenshot from Maho's Instagram stories, which remained up for a limited amount of time (the cleaner, raw picture on the right has the text more readable). The messages are unrelated to the question asked in the box, I should point out, so I am only translating just the relevant bits which are the two large columns of text at the bottom.
    Have a nice day, this is all I need to know.

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    Since I have a good memory -- in addition to the fact that it smelled fishy -- I still remember it, but at the photo-shooting event from which those Sponichi photos are from, I had been requested a lot of incomprehesible poses.
    About the 3, it was a request for a "Nyaa Nyaa Pose" [note: a pose often done by Seiji and Kusakabe of NGT].
    As for the 6, it was a request to "open the palm of your hand and place your index finger in the middle". I recall how I couldn't make sense out of it, so I asked what pose would it be, I was told back "It's alright like that, it's alright", and ended up having photos taken in quick succession well before the time limit was over.
    Thinking back about it today, it feels too disturbing about how much of it was a premeditated crime.

    Being it my job, even if I am requested something unpleasant while at work, like if I'm asked to please write this or to please perform that pose, there's no other choice but to do it in short order. As a professional, I would do it with a smile on my face.
    But if it means to be used as an excuse for that crime, then I'll honestly say this is creepy.
    They did admit to everything about the assault. Not only that, since there's no consorting with me, while at the police station (as I heard from the police itself) they negotiated with the management, saying "If I go on to sell the scandal infos I have about the other members, NGT is finished, alright?".
    But once they were demanded for money compensation, they tried to shift the blame on me, colluding together with the management to exculpate themselves, and that is extremely disturbing. (Oh, and on the voice data from that family briefing meeting, it's already confirmed that the management and the culprits have already been keeping themselves in contact since before the court trial, as I have heard it from a certain person in AKS)
     
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  14. Jurinavenclaw

    Jurinavenclaw Rank 81-100 (Temporary Name)

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    Whoa.. at this point, it's like both AKS and Maho can sue each other for defamation. Like it's obvious one of them is lying.

    AKS seems to be the one guilty of it though, with all the inconsistencies and all.
     
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    One that took them almost 2 years to accomplish? While these photos are no proof of connection, if one of those numbers really is her room number, it proves he knew it on 2017/04/15, when the photos were taken. This is also around the time MahorinOniichan claims to have connected with her.

    Members always have the option to refuse poses. The rules actually state it's up to the discretion of the venue staff, but that's for the same reason the member isn't the one to shoo you out of the booth when your time is up. Of course just not understanding the pose is probably not enough reason for Mahohon to want to refuse it, especially if, as she says, she'd already had a lot of weird poses requested.
     
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  16. shinra94

    shinra94 Kenkyuusei

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    Just pure lying scum. How deep can they go? I can't imagine there's anybody alive who would still have enough brain damage to lay even 1% of blame at Maho's door.
     
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    sdn48oshi Kenkyuusei

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    They are trying to deny that the assault even HAPPENED??????

    God damn. GOD DAMN. AKS is so disgusting.
     
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    tuxedo_gin Kenkyuusei

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    AKS' defense at this point is that Maho was the black member associating with yakai wota, and that the "assault" was a falling out/lover's spat.
     
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    shinra94 Kenkyuusei

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    It's beyond ridiculous what they're doing. We know they're wrong, they know they're wrong, everyone in the general public, advertisers and even the local politicians know they're wrong and yet...

    They make this play as though ANYBODY will buy it. :banana:

    If they just backed her at the start they would have had enormous support. Get rid of those wota, warn the black members or gradually phase them out with graduations and we all move on happy and they keep the sponsors and make money.

    They instead burn the house down and accuse Maho of supplying the petrol. LOL!
     
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    Valdore Kenkyuusei

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    Do you think the courts will buy it though? I remember reading Japanese courts handing out incredibly fucking stupid rulings such as "father accused of raping daughter is found not guilty as the daughter could have resisted".
    Even though it seems so cut and dry that AKS is a piece of shit, I fear that Japanese courts will side with them regardless.
     
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