[SCANDAL] Kashiwagi/Minegishi goukon scoop

What I am wondering is who came up with this party? Who had the idea? Management says they knew about it but it doesn't say they came up with it. If we know who came with it we could establish a purpose for this whole thing and reason of Yukirin being there but I frankly don't get it at all as it is at the moment.

If Miichan set this up, could it be that Miichan was doing a favor to some of the guys? Like, this guy which Miichan knows asks Miichan to set him up with Yukirin because he likes her and Miichan brings her into this? And that is why she left early so that Yukirin would be alone with the guy? But maybe Yukirin was smart enough to ask her manager to come along?

The circumstances are not allowing me to finally make peace with Miichan, not at all.

Question:

1) Which one is Miichan in the pictures? The one hiding her face and wearing a hood?

2) Is the manager really there?

This looks like both a retaliation form Shukan for Yukirin's taunting and, like has been said in here, capitalizing in the Miichan scandal. And like I said in my previous post they are linking Yukirin and using the supposed argument that Miichan hooks up members with famous men and that that is why she is so well liked.

I want to point out that Yukirin is clearly showing her face and not trying to cover it with a mask. It feels to me Yukirin did not feel any need to hide herself because she may have thought she wasn't doing any wrong. Seems to fit the argument she didn't know what would happen. Or she didn't care there were men... pick whichever fits your taste.

Hopefully Yukirin won't quit, especially if she was brought into this.

 

^ her manager never been mentioned in any article, so probably she wasn't with the manager.

Yuki didn't use mask to cover her face. Maybe she felt didn't do anything wrong since it's only goukon in a bar. It's not a hotel right, it's still place where public could see them

 

^ Makes sense, I mean the place is not exactly an apartment or hotel, so I doubt she'll need to cover her face. Besides, we don't even know if they stuck together, for all we know:

- Asuka and the 2 guys could've gone elsewhere, leaving Yukirin alone and she thought it'd be rude to leave

- The 2 guys went elsewhere, leaving Yukirin with Asuka the whole time and they never had contact with the guys after that (what I wish happened )

- They all split up to do their own stuff and Yukirin just stayed there for the lulz and never had contact with them

There're so many possibilities for this matter that I doubt it'll be able make a huge case out of it

 

For me, I think the woman who leave with Yuki is someone that she knew and probably a staff.

Your second argument about Miichan set up the goukon makes sense. Who knows, there is a guy who want to meet Yuki and asked Miichan's help.

And yes, she didn't hide her face and she brought shopping bags with her make it looks like a normal dinner.

 

^ what if that woman is Yuki's staff who picked her up in the morning, as if she's with staff all night.
And Yuki left the bar last, because she's paying all bills since she's probably the only who was not drunk

So the Asuka and two boys were probably shooting Asuka's next production?

 

whatever happen i still believe yukirin, she still the same woman i know like when first time i know akb.

she still the perfect idol and my queen afterall.

and i dont blame michan either,
they just happen in wrong time n place.

 

These 3 possibilities are quite unrealistic tbh. I don't think there is anyone who would wait for strangers or stay alone at a Karaoke cafe for 5 hours through the night without reason.

 

Not sure. But I don't think so.

Another possible reason that make Yuki didn't leave with Miichan is she's drunk and maybe, she don't want ppl to see her in that situation(like Acchan), so she leave in the morning.

But they said Yuki didn't drink on that night.

 

Or maybe, this is all just a giant coincidence and YukiMii didn't not meet Asuka + 2 guys, Bunshun just happened to caught wind of it and fabricated everything

 

Re: Team B - Kashiwagi Yuki (Yukirin)

This is mainly why I have been generally refraining from say much about this issue at the moment as tomorrow (Wednesday 6th) is prob going to be the key day as we will have a reaction (or indeed no reaction) from Yukirin and her Management and that will show us the extent of this scandal......

looking at what info we have at the momet though I think, though this in itself is not exactly great for Yuki and really badly timed they have kept girls on for a lot worse than this.......

 

Yep that question as to why she stayed there in the first place was the one that got me wondering. It is her own lapse of judgement to blame for that, she should have left when she found out there were boys or left with Miichan and her friend. The guys and Asuka might have persuaded her to stay but to me she's a grown woman so she's the one in control to choose what to do.

Also I don't know if it's really a trend in Japan or something but who the hell goes to a 'girls gathering' party at midnight. Seriously, some of these things just makes me even more confused really. What happened inside would probably never be revealed unless one of the workers at the bar decided to give his/her testimony. So it's all speculation really.

 

I'll wait to see the rest when more news comes available... Sadly, I can see Miichan as the organizer of goukon.

If Yukirin went along, I can honestly say I'd be pretty disappointed. Always viewed her as one of the more professional members that took the job/rules seriously; never would've imagined this happening.

When I didn't see her on the live kayoukyoku...kinda thought this was related, but then again, maybe she had solo promo obligations...

 

^ Yuki was with Kojima and Yui for a shooting, when Kayou-kyou was aired.

 

i think there is many celebs in n out that night but since there 3 man and only 2 akb presence,
so SB add one more of many woman celebs who in n out that night, so they could called it "3:3 blind date"


i think she just hangout michan n her manager all night.

 

Were they the only people present at the bar? Even when those men entered, it doesn't mean the situation was all alone Yuki-Micchan and those folks. There could've been another people, either male or female, it doesn't matter as long as there's no prohibited relations/actions being made inside, does it? Unless there is a photo of them being together and do this "goukon" thingy inside, then we might have to start worrying shit. But either way, this totally sounds so screwed up and less detailed.

Does anybody know how the bar/karaoke/whatever looks like from inside? I am still a bit confused, some said it's a restaurant, another bar, then karaoke? [think] Do remember that just because those five are inside doesn't mean they did an interaction with one another. Not even a glimpse of clue. With Watanabe and Ogi clearing out with their statements, this issue won't go any further until they can provide something more. I think it's just that bunshun has no more than this far, therefore they left us with no clue so fans will start generalizing and imagining things that could possibly happen. And with the presence of famous idols together with a bunch of male, people will simply made an assumption there was something "bad" that they've done together.

 

I even defended Bunshun's right to write Miichan's article last week right when this all blew up (because you know, for once, it seemed like somewhat solid journalism) but this one is very....hmm. I don't even know how to put this. It's more than pulling at straws, since they apparently do have some pictures and the event happened, but at the same time, I don't consider this "story" as much of a story. Probably the people thinking that they're simply doing anything they can to stay relevant in the wake of Miichan's scandal are dead on.

I'm a supporter of the love ban rule, but does this really count as a violation that many people would concern themselves about? The reporters have no idea what they were talking about when they were in the bar. Ok, there were guys, but it's not like Yukirin or Miichan followed them back to their apartment afterward, or invited them to their apartments. In other words, no possible way for them to have sex. I really don't care if Yukirin was just meeting up with people for drinks, I'd actually be more worried about the porn star's presence. But that's me. I guess the fact that the 2 guys were sports stars complicate things? Because they were more attractive than normal guys, so people just start assuming things?

Ugh...I'm much too tired right now to wrap my head around all this, even though I've been reading over and rewriting this post over and over. I'll wait until Yukirin or her management responds to form my own judgment of the situation, but for now, yeah, I really hope something like this, of this small magnitude, doesn't manage to blow up.

I didn't think about this at all, but you brought up a very good point. Yukirin fans aren't going to take this lying down. I said above that I hope people won't care about this as much, but just for the fact that Yukirin's name has been besmirched, they'll search for something, someone to blame, and Miichan is an easy target if she did in fact organize a party. It's a common human train of thought. If I was a Yukirin oshi, I wouldn't want anything to happen to my oshi, no matter how small, and if someone is the root cause leading Yukirin down a thorny path, well, then, I wouldn't be very happy with Miichan, would I? And Yukirin has a LARGE fanbase. In that sense, Bunshun is smart, deflecting hatred off of them onto Miichan. There will be infighting.

You need to have more faith in her Mayuyu's the LAST person (except, I don't know, Sakuratan from HKT) to get into a scandal. Honestly, I can't even imagine what it'd be like. I don't remember exactly where, but I think Bunshun (or some other tabloid rag) has gone on record saying that although they've been pursuing stories on Mayuyu, they haven't be able to dig up any dirt on her at all. So it's not like they're going to target Mayuyu next, more like, they've already been targeting her, but they can't do jack squat

 

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^ Wow...it seems there is no way anyone could do any thing 'fishy' in that high-class looking of a place - I highly doubt something happened within those hours now lol

Nvm . ___ .

 

So what is with Miichan? She did goukon and few days after she spent a night in a boy's apartment. Man, she went too far...

 

It's assumed that that is the place where they were at. And they do have private rooms for karaoke. Please read the article in the OP. They were all in one room doing karaoke, not drinking separated and not where people could see them either.

In Japan, karaoke is usually done in private rooms. Unless you're in a karaoke bar but this one seems to be a bar with additional private rooms.