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  1. nvmea

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    did she do too much of this?
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    I hope #2 will be displayed in Akibahara
     
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    Requires a bit of lightroom work.
    The lightning is horribly hard.
     
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    Shitao Miu announced her graduation from AKB48 to pursue a career in Korea. She already signed with an agency.

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    It was bound to happen. Oh well, good luck, I guess.
    Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafe!!!

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    Chink chonk or something like that.
    Actually, he said: "We're going to take you home soon!"

    That's like half of it?

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    Oh damn, quick kill it with fire! :awesome:
     
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    Good then, I hope they come more often especially to HS. Because her Japanese fans count...leave a lot to wish for for senbatsu member.
    The theater lobby is kind of empty yesterday for her seitansai, up to the point they turned on the follow-cam monitors in the lobby.
    That's...not a really good sign for a 6-month pushed member. We'll see how her sales will be in the next single. Dunno when tho.
     
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    I wonder how many people became kinda turned off when the huge hype began... it's just a completely different scenery coming to her SR and watching 100 towers flying in every single time... though I always thought I'm rather the exception when it comes to "not seeing the value in supporting a girl who already has a huge support; even if like her"... many people like to join the winning side... well being so flashy in your support is always a double-edged sword... I still don't think Koreans are "the reason" though... there are even many many comments under the most recent "triggering" Taimuzu matome saying it's cool that Koreans like her... we'll see when we have some numbers... also her activities lately have been rather "aiming at female" (all the DHC stuff and modeling), no?
     
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    Her handshake sales are at an all-time high and they keep getting better and better. As long as the money comes in they don't care where it comes from. They see her as the gate to the Korean market.

    The thing with the Internet, SHOWROOM and Matome is that a very reduced number of people can lead you to think that they're more than they actually are, not just in the Japanese idol industry.

    How many females do you see on her lane, besides @ariadne32391?
     
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    now there's probably only Naamin who could compete with her, as in they are overlapping in several features, but there's also place for both as they're different teams
    it's also a skill to do that... but when you consistently don't deliver results... the bubble bursts eventually...
    even if females don't necessarily come to HS, but they are still a good fanbase to have... that is, when management understands that
     
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    Well, still not as many as Renacchi or NMB Akarin. Lol

    And, August HS sales is just inflated so much because there have been no new single yet. So many SO.

    From what I remember, her sales soar up high in the last resale. Before it was like...kind of worrying for her fans.
    I hope she can retain the numbers in the coming single.
     
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    She's Korean, not Chinese.

    Well, yeah, but in the end handshake sales are what really matters (and Sousenkyo ranking, partially). Didn't Yamada had many female fans too?

    That's what you said about STU and look at Chiho now!
     
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    I sincerely hope Naamin and Gyoten get shuffled out of the hopeless 4 into A
    • well they do, but I agree with the people who claim it's shortsighted to base everything only on that. And I think she'll do well anyway, she's a good girl so she might slightly let you down with her HS, but she'll never outright offend you like... some others tend to do
    • and it's relative - until there's someone who clearly "beats" her in HS sales and also in her other undeniable strengths, I don't see why should they drop her. And atm I don't see anyone but Naamin who could do that. Also isn't there like 15 fewer AKB girls compared to the last single?
    • idek if Shitao is popular with females in the first place (didn't she have that super lopsided male support in Pdyu?), but I just mentioned she seems to have been chosen to do modeling(-like) jobs. (Compare it with the shoots HS monsters Moeka or Miku make.) It's not something that happens so often for AKB nowadays so I guess they have some idea with that.
    • Yamada was never pushed as a model or anything though so I guess it's different, they never really exploited that.
     
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    Yeah, they need a real captain like Okabe. It's not her fault that Moekyun was completely wasted.

    AKB is a business and their business is to make money, and money comes from handshakes. Also merchandising, but that shouldn't be that different from handshakes. Sure, some of the not-so-popular members have skills and market to deserve a shot at a certain type of jobs, but the senbatsu, TV shows, etc. are meant to handshake queens, powerful agencies and some pushes we will never understand.

    Have you seen the two front rows of Suki da suki da suki da? They're ordered by their handshakes sales: Yuiyui center with Berin and Naru, Nagi as second center with Shitao and Tanao. They screwed Onishi tho.

    Be a man and spit it out!

    Onishi had the same resales as Shitao, but SR is too good for AKB. Naamin sales are good, but they're not as good as you think. Some other girls like Manaka, Satone or Zukkii do better than her. And you know who sells more than all of them? Tanao.

    Yeah, but you know very well that most leave the fandom when their oshimen graduate.

    Sure, but Shitao has been there since 2014 and it wasn't until Produce 48 that they thought that giving her modeling jobs could be a good idea (and she had that body two years ago). AKS is beting on the Korean girls that were either successful in Korea or that brought a considerable group of fans to the group. Money.
     
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    oh, Okabe will be traded for those two. Erii is the new A captain.
    you know I'm not the one who'd call for inclusion of 0/20 girl in senbatsu just because "she's pretty!" or sth, but surely there's more to doing business then selling the final product. If Shitao appears in your YT video and gets you 5x more views than Oguri, if Shitao gets you 5x more engagement in a campaign on IG or Twitter... then she can sell poorly (but it'd be surprising tbh, it's very hypothetical) and still be extremely valuable and sought for + her age and skills offer enough potential to keep pushing her at least for some time.
    Does she need to be in senbatsu for that? Well, in the end no one really does... (Though she might be more likely to quit and succeed "on her own", than girls who are purely HS popular?)
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    idek what Naamin's sales are, but the point is she has many similarities with Shitao, age-wise, fandom-wise, coulddomodeling-wise.
    Tanao is 25, ofc they are not gonna start pushing her. I thought they'd have given her one (the one when Naru came back instead), now it's too late. There's no benefit in putting Onishi in senbatsu no matter what her sales are.
    possibly, but still, all the "let's try a ticket with this girl" and "let's do oshimashi with this girl" have fewer to choose from... don't think it's too significant but not something to forget either
    yes, but for some reason they think that instead of, say, pushing her gravure, pushing her modeling is a better choice. Why is that? Where do the Korean and international fame come into this?
    Or is it just because she's eito and she couldn't really do "proper" gravure? Maria's experience hinted otherwise... and so did the recent offshot.
     
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    Can she? YouTube views are free (at least for the viewers), I'm sure that isn't AKasses goal. What's the point of having millions of Korean views if that doesn't reflect on... sales? Maybe it's good for Shitao, but when they sign a contract with AKS they're supposed to help AKS make money while AKS is supposed to help the girls ma... Oh.

    When they send Maria to those stage plays they don't really expect to get anything from it, but it's a nice touch. Yet, that's it.

    So, yes, it makes sense to push Shitao considering the potential and Korea, but if she doesn't produce (get it?) results in the future, if they see that it didn't work as they expected, they won't have any problem in dropping her and then bye bye modeling career. Even Renacchi couldn't escape from that (porn isn't a proper career). If you look at AKB's senbatsu you have the sister groups, the agencies, and then from AKB the old hags that are still highly popular — wait, isn't that just Yukirin nowadays? No, wait, there's another one. Sorry, @Zuu Ryuzuma 48 — and sales, nothing more than sales. Except Shitao that was in the senbatsu twice in a row when other members with better sales (and ranking) weren't. She's far from being the rule, so even if you or anyone else believes that there's more to AKB than sales. the last years proved that maybe you're not that lucky. Some people ask for singing contests, but then they shake hands with someone else.

    Where? In Japan? She could, but outside AKB there are thousands of Shitaos, the same way there are thousands of Sayanees, thousands of Acchans. It's not easy for any former idol, even for the golden age ones.
    In Korea? Maybe. Until the day they find a new toy to play with. And boy they find new toys really fast!

    AKB and idols are a short dream.

    Sooooou yooonde!!!

    More Cebu gravure?

    They still have hundreds of girls to pick. A fan is not limited to AKB to oshimashi. Juri left? Let's see who this Chiho girl is.

    Because she was 17 until recently. Because eitos don't do real gravure unless they win it via SR. Where is Okabe's gravure? She's old and popular enough and people want to see her belly button. You won't get any Yuiyui gravure when she turns 18, unless things change again. Even Mion isn't doing tit gravure anymore.

    You're in for a surprise. Then again, SR.
     
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