Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

I just did the edits on the NGT pages for Oguma Tsugumi's graduation (and I checked other pages to make sure, I think everything is updated now!). I don't follow Sakurazaka and the foreign sister groups so I'm not sure about doing the edits for their history... I'll let someone take a look. (and yes there are some groups that don't have a history page yet...).

Btw @sscrla you made 4 posts in a row in a same day, you could have edited the first post

 

Added the graduations of Miichan and the three Sakura members to their respective history pages.

I'm currently too busy to create full history pages for JKT and BNK.

For the record, someone decided to create a link for these at some point randomly, without actually creating the pages. I'm not sure why, I don't remember seeing a discussion about it. We've always had the pages for teams. It'd be nice if the person, who created those links out of the blue, also actually created a history page. The AKB48 history page, btw, is also a big, big mess and only goes up to like 2008 (without checking again just now. Maybe it goes further, but it's not a very helpful page).

 

Here's something which might be of interest for Wiki editors - I've just been watching the latest vlog from ex-Nogizaka46 member Ito Karin of a trip to Europe:



At 6:00 she checks into a hotel in Paris and when the receptionist asks for her name she spells her surname in Romaji as 'Itoh' with an 'h'. The Wiki has her name under her photo as 'Itō' with a macron.

I'm definitely not suggesting we alter her name on her page, we've had more than enough discussions here in the past about macrons - I'm merely mentioning this just as something interesting.

 

Long vowels are always tricky! ._.

Due to the fact it's spelled 'Ito' in her socials, and there is no romaji on her agency website, I'd stick with 'Ito' for the overall layout, but I've added it as a trivia

 

Question: are we gonna make a wiki for Aki-P's new group? The one hailed as "Nogizaka's official rival"?

 

I think that will really depend on how closely they're actually related...

Personally, I'm inclined to say no for now? But might change my mind. My reason being that we're primarily a 48G forum/wiki, and technically, this new rival isn't related to 48G anymore, only Sakamichi. But it really depends on how closely related they are.

Some people were against having IZ*ONE stuff on the wiki, I was personally in favour of it because a quarter of the members were 48G members and the show that created IZ*ONE had 48 in it, it was a temporary project, they were still managed by a company related to AKS, and the members returned to 48G afterwards (no matter how short in Sakura's case lol).

But I'm willing to change my mind once we see stuff like the group's name, how they're promoted, etc.

 

Yahho~
Some things I found/noticed:

- Okuda Irohas Trivia lists her favorite colors twice. (Please delete the one that that only says Deep green)
- Kitano Hinako said in one of her videos (at 1:59 / if I understood correcty) that her height is more like 158,5cm to 159cm, rather than 158cm.
- Kawahara Misakis favorite colors are: Light blue, gray and white (and transparent, referring to glasswares - I don't think that needs to be added) <- Info from one of her recent Insta-stories
- Cherprang Areekul: The first sentence says "Cherprang (Cherprang Areekul) [...]". Shouldn't it be "Cherprang Areekul [...]" like it's done on all other profiles?
- Now two members I'm not sure about: Hoop, as the website says, is only member of Team BIII, while Paeyah (BNK profile) is only a member of Team NV. (Can a BNK fan here confirm?)
- Kaofrang: In the first sentence her name is mistyped with two "n". Please delete one.

Have a nice day

 

Do you mean the "List of current and former members who have married"? I can't think of a page that includes the word 'children' in the title. But I did add it to that page plus Yuko's individual page.

I follow the official romanisation that members and/or the official website use. I wasn't a wiki editor back then and just read some of it. I'm against the use of macrons in title pages because that would make it impossible to search for members with long vowels, unless you copy and paste the letter with the macron into the search bar. This is an issue I've noticed with SGO48 members, as they have special characters that I don't have on my German keyboard. I assume most other English speaking users (like the majority of this forum) don't have macrons on their keyboard.

Following the transcription of the individual member/the official website seems like the safest bet.

I'm actually inclined to actually change all the rest... what's the point in having Thai members listed by nicknames, only for the profiles to say their legal names? What do others think?

I do remember both of them getting promoted as kennin members to both teams. The only source I can find atm is 48RequestHour on twitter. This reddit post (check the first comment by OP) also mentions that they're part of both teams. I do feel like I remember BNK48 mentioning them as members of both teams during a concert setlist once. Maybe now they have more members, the members are both just part of one team each, but then the question is, when did this change?

I tried to check Wayback Machine but even as recent as December 2nd, their profiles still used to say "BNK48 Trainee"

Sorry, I think I'm blind. Could you let me know where exactly there's the double n?

EDIT: I found the double n. I was looking for Kaofranng, not 'Yannisa' haha

 

I know they mention members' kids on there... that's why I added Yuko's entry there. I was just checking there wasn't a page with the word 'children' in the title itself. Quotation marks, in this instance, sounded to me like "married with children" is the name of the page. Quotation marks could also mean that you are quoting literally what you're talking about, not referencing a song

 

Done! it's fixed now.

 

I don't quite get what you mean? "Listed" like in the senbatsu for songs? I think it's better to keep the nicknames only, they're a lot easier to remember.
What I meant regarding Cherprang, was, that her first sentence (introduction sentence? What is that first sentence called?) says her nickname (basically her first name) and than her full name in brackets, while every other member uses the full name in bold (see Earn). Tho I think you understood what I meant, you haven't changed it so I want to be sure. ^^

I found this thai wiki (it was last edited 17 hours ago) and it also says that they're part of both teams. So I guess BNK just doesn't note that on their website. Means I take my request back, doesn't need to be changed. Thanks for also checking it!

My bad, should've pointed out that I meant her real name. Thank you for correcting it!

 

We list them by nickname on pretty much every page now, including for example team pages as well.

What I meant is whether we should change other members' pages to say something like "Music (Praewa Suthamphong) was a member of BNK48" instead, so it matches with Cherprang's profile, rather than "Praewa Suthamphong was a member of BNK48"

 

If I work for a newspaper, I'm getting paid.

I'm sorry, but we have real lives and most of us (including myself) have full time jobs. I also have hobbies outside of Jpop, and real life relationships that I want to maintain. I'm not gonna spend my free time scouring the wiki for errors. When I spot them, I correct them, and @Mana once went through hundreds of pages to correct commas.

That being said, we're all volunteers and are doing what we can and most importantly, however much workload we are willing to put into this thing.

If you spot mistakes, you can come on here and link the page and point out the mistake, just like @FlowingColors did in their previous post, where they pointed out there were two 'n's in a member's name. I'm happy to correct those mistakes when I find the time.

But we are not paid editors, we are volunteering contributors to a fan created wiki page. I will not go into the wiki, reading page after page, to find mistakes and fix them. When I do notice them, I do fix them, but I will not go hunting for it. My emphasis also lies on the 'fan created' because no, I do not think we should establish rules about comma usage. This is a fan project, and nothing more.

I am proud of how much info is on the wiki, I'm not trying to downplay how important of a resource it is to many 48G fans, but at the end of the day, it is still a fan project, none of us are getting paid anything at all to contribute to the wiki. We should aim for readability, proper spelling and grammar, but pedantic little stuff like the oxford comma seems a bit much.