The 2014 Stage48 Member Ranking (All Votes Counted!)

Do grads count?

 

Because I've already caught someone trying to use multiple accounts to cheat, let me make this clear: Anyone caught will have both (or however many) accounts banned for a time as well as a permanent warning issued to both accounts, unremovable by anyone except staff. Do not try to game the system. We have multiple ways of checking, and the risk is not worth the reward.

 

@Crests If the grad was still an active member at anytime in 2014, then yes they count. If you are not sure about a specific person/s, @ithebigc provided a list of members eligible for ranking in the first page of the thread.

 

Hasn't the vote started yet? It should be on Feb 22 at 12 am JST right?

 

If I only follow Paruru and only post on Paruru thread. Can I just put one name in the list

 

Oh....
Haha i forgot to see that, because to exciting..
Have i must vote again? Haha
Sorry my bad....

 

so does that mean i have to vote again ???? because i already sent my votes yesterday!!!~~~

 

this interesting
20 members heh
usually i only interested in a few members not up dozens like this
I must think first

 

lol no you can't sorry

 

@TakaOshiMina @achanoshiJKT @Lalatz

If you sent your rankings too early, you're fine. The start time was just there because I wanted people to think about their rankings a bit before submitting them, but if you're that sure of your top 20 it's not like I won't count your ranking for that reason. I'll PM anyone if I have a problem with their ranking.

Also, I think you all submitted them within the time period anyway. It's Feb 22, 9:57 pm in Japan right now, which means this ranking started 22 hours ago.

 

What on earth would be a personal reason for disliking a member? Really bad handshake experience, I guess? I don't think anyone here has enough of an intimate relationship with a member to dislike them on a personal level. I understand your point, just found the wording amusing! Oh well, I skipped using any negative votes again this year, because I'm a ~grown-up~!

 

A personal reason simply means they should have their own reason for doing so. For example, if the girl was in a scandal and the person didn't like her actions in that scandal or how she handled it, I think that's a legit reason for giving her negative points. It's a personal reason because different people might feel different about the issue. Handshake experiences would be another I guess, if they ruined that person's day or something, haha.

An example of an unjustified reason would be people voting down girls simply because they're popular. Then you're simply not liking their popularity, not because they actually dislike the girl and it would unfair to vote the girl down for something not necessarily in their control.

Hope that clears things up! Generally, in the past after the results were all revealed and some people voluntarily chose to reveal their reasoning for each vote, I could follow their train of thought whether or not I agreed with their opinion. Different strokes for different folks is the key phrase. That's why they're personal!

 

ok, just to join in on the discussion, why is there a need for a "justified reason" to dislike a member? Isn't dislike/hate very much similar to like/love? We can always try to qualify why we like our favorite member but it will really just go down to preference/taste/choice.

 

I think what ithebigc is trying to say diplomatically is, don't be negging Rena if your a Jurina oshi, don't be negging Mayu if you a Sasshi oshi etc.
Which is what happens every year, some of the more popular members get as many negative votes as positive ones due to people trying to strategically ruin the chances of their oshi's main rivals.

At least that's how I read it.

 

Personally, I did not use my negative votes in a strategic manner but rather on the simple reason that I don't like those members. Still, if some people are using it "strategically" with the hope that their oshi will fair better than their oshi's rival, I don't see why those people shouldn't or can't.

We're asked to give our personal "ranking" and if being the rival of one's oshi is reason enough for some to ranked that member low, then so be it.

 

Well let's say negative votes are used merely to alter results to one's benefit than for having any negative reason at all. Like if I was a Mayu fan and wanted her to be first I would have to vote down Takamina to help ensure that. Not a good reason to use negative voting now is it? If it's because they are legitimate rivals and this is something more in tune with what really goes on between the members and not just to top a list, than sure I can buy that. I don't think popularity is a bad choice for negative voting however; the more people agree on something, the harder the disagreement will be.

He's just asking that you be serious about it and don't deliberately try to mess up the results, that's all.

 

Although that reasoning has it's own problems if you're only choosing to vote for members to rank high rather than members that are actually your favorites.

 

2013 members with the most haterz™ (overall rank, name, minus points, # of votes)
6. Shimazaki Haruka -93 (20 minus votes)
20. Matsui Jurina -71 (20 minus votes)
17. Minegishi Minami -61 (15 minus votes)
29. Sashihara Rino -59 (19 minus votes)
3. Watanabe Mayu -58 (15 minus votes)
80. Iriyama Anna -41 (12 minus votes)
38. Tashima Meru -40 (16 minus votes)

I don't know if this is done before in the 2013 thread, if so my apologies! It was just a lot of pages of numbers ^^;

 

Good one. I never thought of that, probably because the concept of a top 20 sounds so fun in the first place.

The negative votes seem honest enough when I look at them (and not many either). Luckily most people probably can name 20 favorites from being in this fandom long enough, or be excited to see where the members they liked ended up. Also, knocking someone else down doesn't guarantee any kind of victory anyway, so what's the use in that I guess.

A greater risk often leads to a greater reward, so why not?