Single AKB48 44th [Tsubasa wa Iranai] (2016/06/01)

Hurray for Myao and Oya being in senbatsu! Love that Rara's in it too! I'm really hoping that if they do like Bokutachi with the media senbatsu that Naachan makes it in. Please? *fingers crossed* I will miss Milky in this senbatsu and the next single though.

 

Age has nothing to do with the generation you are in. You are senior to someone if you joined earlier, age has nothing to do with it. That's how Sakura (18) is senior to Saho (21) for example.

 

But it does have something to do with how long you can potentially stick around. A 18 yr old whose been in the group 5 years will probably stay longer than a 22 year old that's been in the group 3 years.

This conversations is basically now just arguing semantics about who is "Senpai/Kouhai" to who. New gen is not a literal word based on what generation a member started their activity. Maybe it once was but not anymore. Now it basically means young (age-wise) members who haven't reached the top of their potential yet, or young members who management think will stay around long enough into the future to become leaders of their respected groups or just become popular enough in general to sell well. So you can still include sakura, miion, miruru, riripon, etc.

In the 43rd thread there was a lot of arguing and name calling, especially between members inside this forum. So I see why it got shut down. But here? People are just giving their opinions. There's been nothing here like what that thread descended into. And so what if it's on page 7, or 20, or 3? I'd rather have lot of conversation then a dead forum.

As for the "dead-weight" comment, I stand by that. For me, I only want members in senbatsu if 1) They are pretty popular now, or 2) they have "potential", as seen by management (fine... I'll add a 3) they are soukantoku). I'll agree and disagree on what that "potential" is, but nobody is kidding themselves by saying that these two members are popular or have potential.

 

Wow, this might be one of my favorite senbatsu lineups. What I always loved about the spring/election voting singles is that they really try to get a good representation of the entire 48 family.

Congrats to Miion on landing Center! Finally a true Team K member makes it. Would've liked to see a few more like Tano or Mogi.

Oya and Myao back in the spotlight! There are occasions where management can celebrate the older members.

I adore Ryoka and Juri, glad they could be in.

I can't believe I'm about to be greedy, but I would've liked seeing a few more unusual suspects from the sister groups.

 

I'm on the verge of tears for Myao and Oyababa. This senbatsu has made me SO happy! I don't care if it's a generic idol song or whatever it ends up being, I'm just so happy for these two. I need to take a walk, I'm just THAT happy about it haha!

 

Wow I never know people will hate the inclusion of Myao and Shiichan that much.. What's with the butthurts? Is it bad to give them surprises? The one who deserves a senbatsu spot is not only one two it-girls. Everyone deserves a spot..

It will be awesome if they go with this pattern again later. Put Tanamin, Izurina, Amiin in and it will burn people..

I need to see their reactions when senbatsu announced. It must be priceless.. Anyone have links to that?

Now we only need Team songs with PVs.. But will it be another 5type singles again?

 

Happy for: Nanamin joins senbatsu
Neutral toward: Mion center
Confused by: Shiichan and Myao in, Naanya and Milky out (not hating Shiichan not Myao though)
Sad: Still no Miki

 

Plus the addition of those two was really due to their respective agencies - with this all of Ohtapro and Watanabe pro are in senbatsu.

Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk

 

It's been pointed out by a lot of posters before, but where exactly do you think popularity comes from? By and large, popularity can only come when an idol is put in the spotlight. A lot of people don't look past that spotlight. "Management pushes" are so argued over by fans because, for better or worse, the pushed member is getting more publicity, more official backing and more limelight than they ever would have without the push. Myao was pushed years ago and was middlingly popular, but that was many years ago and she's changed a lot in the meantime so giving her another push to see if she can become popular again should be considered separate from the promotion she got so long ago. Shiichan was never given the opportunity to have some spotlight and become popular through that avenue (except the couple times she won a spot for herself in janken). Finally, she gets a little bit of a purposefully management-sponsored chance and I'm sure she won't waste the opportunity.

I understand where you're coming from about wanting to see fresh faces in senbatsu. Shiichan and Myao are older members, they are closer to graduation than many other girls. But they have also put in more than their fair share of work for the group over many years! They were unpopular, there were times they even failed to rank in elections, their entire existence in showbusiness thrived on a few fans in a tiny theater and jobs that a lot of people would never see or even notice. And yet they didn't quit. AKB has always peddled the belief that anything can happen as long as the girls try hard and have hope, so they damn well better make good on that once in a while, or else what are these less popular girls even supposed to be looking forward to by hanging around in AKB?

Senbatsu is already full of the usual suspects and fresh new faces. Throwing in a couple of the good old guard as a nod to their hard work as theater girls and a reminder of AKB's supposed "anything can happen" stance shouldn't be so looked down upon by fans. Moves like this are necessary for morale and don't happen nearly enough. If members had the understanding that they absolutely wouldn't be chosen for senbatsu or other coveted positions once they fell below a certain threshold of popularity, I wonder if the theater would even have enough girls to operate?

Man, some people are just sour no matter what I guess.

 

When I think about it, I'm not that surprised about Myao and Shii being in senbatsu.

In terms of performance quality, it makes a HELL of a lot more sense to have Myao and Shiichan in senbatsu than Nyan. Yet, Nyan has the record for being in the most senbatsu in AKB's history. Because she's popular.

But she's also one of the oldest and most legendary members.

let's look at the first five generations of AKB...2nd gen's fire is now extinguished. And with Takamina gone, that leaves only Nyan and Mii for 1st gen. 3rd gen? MaYuki. Two others are focused on other groups, and the other? Unfortunately, invisible.

As for 4th and 5th gen? There's not much left.. barring the sister group members, Myao and Shiichan are the OBVIOUS choices in terms of representation of the old generation of AKB. They're chock full of personality, herald the bygone era, and round out the senbatsu by balancing new girls with older girls.

I can't think of a single negative thing to say about them being included in the senbatsu. Why on earth would we give younger girls a chance when there are still older girls giving their all in the group, who still have a lot to give? Tano will get her chance, as will members like Yuiri and Miki... as for now, let the older ones have some spotlight before they leave. Lord. People need to lighten up. It's not like this is the last AKB single ever.

 

I appreciate the gesture. Shiichan fans must be so happy especially
Myao and Shiichan are actually the wildcards for this senbatsu, along with Miion center. As much as people are saying the rest of the senbatsu is miraculous and whatnot, apart from those two things it's really your standard expanded senbatsu. Not that that's a bad thing.
I wonder if they'll pull a Manatsu no Sounds Good and have all the young members in the A senbatsu (assuming the usual format since there is always senbatsu A and B for expanded senbatsus)

 

Only 3 types for this single?

http://shopping.akb48-group.com/products/list.php?akb48&category_id=1754&twG

 

Three types is fine for me! We've been having too much four-type single (Kimi wa Melody was FIVE plus theater!), so three-type looks great. Haven't been doing these for quite some time...

 

People thinking negatively about Shizuka and Miho's additions such look at it this way. They're technically old gen members which means, unless they go by name of Kojiharu and Yukirin, they will probably be on their way out this year or early next year. The girls who didn't make it (like Miki, Tano, Naanya, Komiharu, Mio, Meru, Fuuchan, Nagisa, Shuu, Team 8 and NGT members) will MOST LIKELY be in the group a year from now. Meaning, they have a chance to be back in senbatsu.
Shiichan and Myao's additions to me, looks like a "thank you for the hard work" present and to solidify that "hard work will always be rewarded". Quite fitting for the first management single to not include takamina lol. It might be sad for girls like Tano and Miki now, but hopefully, this will give their fans a reason to say "NOTICE HER" and push her harder in elections, and increase hs sales, because that's what management looks at in the new gen most. That's why Sakura got pushed, that's why they decided to go with Mion over Naanya. That's why Miki has been left behind. It sucks, but that's how it is.

Now, i actually hope that we'll see a bikini single, i think the last one for 48g was NMB's Durian right? wayy too long ago. I'll be really happy to see that lol.

 

Myao was expected, but i was excpecting Nattsun instead of Shiichan. I don't want to see the 11th gen outlasted by the 1st gen

 

assuming the 44th single will be a bikini pv, it will be 743 days since Labrador Retriever #PleasebeBikiniMV

 

I really like this senbatsu. They weren't kidding when they said the next one would be about the next generation after some of the girls were dissapointed that they weren't in Melody.

If we're being honest, was Myao's inclusion really that surprising? Especially after Aki-P said that this year was going to be big for her? To me Shiichan in senbatsu and Mionis center are just an added (and refreshing) bonus .