IZONE News and Discussion Thread

I mean... the voting is still open and nobody's stopping anyone from voting. Since it made it to Stage48 (and I've seen it on a few discord servers too), I'm not sure how biased it really is.

That... is not the final ranking. That is the officially announced ranking of Episode 11. Myao came first in the 9th episode ranking list in case y'all forgot

 

Miyu will be debuting in Mystic’s Girl Group. Mystic is a subsidiary to SM, which is the #1 music company in Korea.

So she’s about to get her rightful debut.

 

What you're saying is true but I just want to present another aspect and that is that there are supposedly now more izone fans that became fans after PD48 (or regardless of PD48?) and many of the reasons given were that izone is great in performances or that they're fashionable which is impacted by being good looking. I think the line-up is really stacked with naturally skilled dancers and singers and really good looking members. Many of the 48G members can keep up with proper training and over time but there's a big difference between keeping up and really excelling so others have to keep up with you. As we saw in the PD48 performances, the good performances are usually made up of mostly k-trainess with some j-trainees. Sakura aside, nako and hiichan are I think the best dancers from the remaining top 20 j-trainees and they're both young, cute, and have anime-like singing voices that none of the koreans have. So these two almost don't have to keep up and can even excel over the other k-members in some areas. The other j-trainees left have their own talents too but an investing-person would probably pick these two first.

Also, the people voting include (who knows how many or how few) voters that wanted the group to fail and disliked m-net quite a bit. And so there were troll votes picking members that they think would make the group not succeed or members they know mnet didn't like. And just a small nuance in the penultimate ranking -- these contained the bonus points from concept so if those were removed for episode 12 and you get the same results, chowon would have been in and miru out.

The "confession" from the PD that's going around is that he was pressured by wanna one's success. Everyone picked kinda fits with the concept they chose and with each other and everyone is either a skilled dancer, a naturally good vocalist, or a really good-looking visual. And some members like chaewon, eunbi and yujin are all three imo. So I think he just picked the members who he thought would make the best group.

 

Yeah that's what I mentioned in my comment, although I don't think he's being sincere I think it makes sense what he mentioned.
Although I do agree about Hii-chan I don't think Nako was seen as one of the best dancers among the 48G girls, and with each release I think she doesn’t fit that much with the group, if I were the PD at that moment I would have chosen Miu instead because I think she had an image more fitting with the kpop style. I think that Nako was chosen so she could be paired up with Hitomi, those 2 are always getting the same lines in Korean releases and their voices can sound very similar sometimes.
I agree with what you mentioned about the penultimate ranking.

 

lol, people beclowning themselves over the 'uncovered' 11th episode rankings

 

Well nako did move from f to a mostly due to her relaxed dancing and good lines but maybe any difference is not that distinguishable. However, she is pretty unique and other girl groups don't have a "nako" in their line-up.

I agree a little bit with you re the PD but whether we believe him or not and whether backroom "fixes" have already been made, what he says is what the prosecution is running with and there likely won't be other proof other than what he offers.

Re the text vote results, rather than releasing what could have been the line-up, I'm hoping they just compensate all 8 trainees that did not make it using money from mnet's portion of the profits. I think the line-up's only useful purpose is so trainees can be properly compensated. And maybe compensate OT12 too because they suffered too (especially those that would have made it in regardless).

 

Well, as long as fans are Happy with having Nako as a member there's no problem. And yeah, she has an uniqueness you can't find in another group.
About what he mentions if there's no other proof I don't think it'll change that much because there are many things that have been discovered now.
About the text votes, as I said before it will be used as evindence, and it's very likely that's the starting point of the investigation. As I read somewhere, of the police went to investigate specific agencies, then that means they already knew what was the real ranking, if I remember well, they got the data from the telephone company that provided the service. Which makes me think that even if it's not released by the police someone might leak it after the case is done or even one of these days. There many people who wants to use that data for their personal purposes it might even be used for exhortation.

 

and why its wrong for fans to defend their faves. everyone have the rights to express their opinion including all sakura fans. one can have their favourite and could careless about the other members. especially in this rough time where it can jeopardize the future of their favourite member.
If wonyoung's company allegedly doing dirty, her position have the right to be questioned.

 

Back then sakura wanted to destroy akb. Now this mess is the right time for sakura to destroy izone for good

 

I agree. Its like Starship is representing here, some of the posts that I read.


NEWS: The Official IZ*ONE Japanese Fan Club Begins Refunding Members. They are also no longer accepting new members.

 

Well... she actually missed both chances because NGT gate already damaged AKB and CJ E&M, MNet & Starship destroy izone

 

It seems that Wonyoung fans demand for an apology from Starship and that they let her to leave the company for a bigger dream.
https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/417/0000480095

 

If anything, they should thank Starship to buy her that number 1 position which let her centered the singles. Oh, but unfortunately they got caught badly.

 

Real talk, if Sakura unleashed her full powers and the misguided anger of her fanbase, she could even destroy the much vaunted and taken for granted Sakamichi groups.

I pray she'll return to HKT feeling good about the group... for HKT itself.

 

Plot twist: AKS change the positions of the girls for every japanese single, including the center.
And actually, I think that's the reason why the only japanese A-side they've performed in Korea and kpop festivals is Suki to Iwasetai. Becuase is the only one with Wonyoung as center. I don't count the Buenos Aires performance we saw in Our Time because even tough ito happened in Korea was released in the Japanese market, and it was a private event for the fans.

 

Agree with this 100%

Heck, I can be labeled as a Sakura hater and all but I don't see anything wrong if her fans are demanding for the rank she really earned.

Besides, with all the push and screentime she got from the show, not ranking #1 was falling short of what's to be expected from her.

 

Umm compared to 46 she would be destroyed right? Look at this list
https://ameblo.jp/kazchan345/entry-12465633419.html

Anyway i gotta admit that being in izone helped her popularity as her rank increased but since izone gonna disband soon, comeback to 48 will do no good for her. Best chance to stay relevant is solo carreer as model/actrees (she has the looks but not the talent) or 46 transfer/kennin

 

Even if sakamichi is more popular act, she is too ambitious to be just techi’s backdancer.

She is just screwed over. Just release the real votes and she is safe. After izone disbanded she can stay in korea and would still relevant though it will not in izone level popularity. Some koreans would still rolled eyes to her because she’s japanese and because she’s from izone, the product of fraud.

Anyway i wonder if right now there is split inside izone members. Would they still consider the certain members close friend/family even if it will cause harm to their future? I bet some agency would give some warning to keep distance from certain members to avoid bad effects from those members. After all agency only care about their artist and wouldn’t want their artist to be stained from the bad effect of the other members.

 

I keep seeing people say to compensate the girls who got rigged out.

How do you exactly compensate for this? How do you compensate for being rigged out of an opportunity of a lifetime? For taking your own time off for the show and then being rigged out? For having to make drastic changes to your own career for being rigged out? For all the trauma that has been caused by this bullshit? How do you put a value on something that has such an impact of life-long consequences?

 

You can't put a value on something like that, but at least some compensation is better than none.