Single SKE48 17th (Coquettish Juutai Chuu) 15/03/31

Having Nana center the single AND include Yukirin is kind of gimmicky too, just saying.

 

Ehhh the 48 groups does a ton of things that can be seen as gimmicky. Handshake tickets, election tickets twoshot tickets request hour votes the list is pretty long and it's not like every other artist or group in the industry doesn't do it either...

 

i doubt the GP even care about gimmicks, all they know, is oh, look, the numbers for SKE are bigger than NMB -> SKE is doing better, no one cares or have the time to research about music cars, HS, soundscans, etc

the DVD of Lim editions for NMB single is pretty gimmicky, they have 2 sets of singles, concert set and PVs set, since NMB doesn't release DVDs they include it in singles/albums

SKE dvds are the same between regular & limited since SKE releases all their DVDs/BRs

 

Correct it for you!

 

Sae is pretty much an SKE member though.

Until the recent shuffle I had all but forgotten Yukirin was part of NMB.



And I see nothing gimmicky about the usual centers centering.

 

How can having WMatsui as centers be seen as a gimmick when its pretty much the norm for SKE? Putting someone new as center that will generate some buzz IS a gimmick. Not necessarily a bad one but still a gimmick.

 

It's not as if people were in here defending and supporting the music cards and boasting about the sales in the first place so I'm not sure I understand the need to point out that what was done was gimmicky. We know.
I'm curious to see when the soundscan numbers come out because I'd like a better idea of how the single is actually received because in my opinion the title song is really, really good.

 

NMB's soundscan numbers will likely be better, considering all of the extra content

 

Forgetting the 17hours long niconico stream, forgetting free live in Oasis21, forgetting they actually shot the MV with people of Nagoya to make them feel more included/connected to the group, forgetting the good fortune trip to Hazumisaki, forgetting Yokohama special release event with 10k+ fans.



Music cards did weight, but I've seen number of reports on twitter of shops out of stock of regular and limited editions of Coquesshi. So no, the group didn't steal the victory. NMB prefered to bet on a large number of post release events and it didn't pay like they hope, that's all.

And SKE are using their music cards anyway...

 

Both group have extra effort in promoting event though. But the 'music card' thing still bother me. That's it. Let's just wait for the soundscan/itunes please if anyone have the result.

 

Yeah definitely. I don't understand it at all.

Music cards essentially are like photocards that also allow you to leave your CDs blemishless. They're quite useful, especially if you don't want to rip songs from your CDs (and damage them in the process, because ripping is actually not something they were meant to do).

This is a case of gimmick versus gimmick. Who cares? We got two great singles as a result of this so-called "battle".

 

Well for what it's worth, I didn't mean for comparison purposes.
I just was curious what the numbers would look like knowing the number of theatre editions and then minusing a fraction of it, if not half, because iirc not all the theatre editions had the music cards but I could be wrong.

 

The discussion is actually to know how the group is developed, right? To know which group have more fans. I know gimmick is unhinderable but at least, since this is so called 'battle'.. I want to know the fairest result out there.

 

Then just adjust the results?

Take the amount sold thus far, divide it in half for SKE (assuming all theater sales) and adjust NMB's results for their 2shot event days. Not really that hard.

 

Everyone is aware of that, maybe you haven't noticed but there hasn't been a single fan celebrating that SKE has beaten NMB in this competition or that this is their highest charting single, instead we're just talking about how we like the single or which b-side is the best or even if this high chart will get the girls more work and momentum for the future, but if you're still feeling like a "loser" NMB fan. Than by all means keep venting out like everybody is celebrating like this is SKE's best achievement, i'm mean it'll be redundant, but if you can't do something else than go ahead.

 

AKB is the biggest business in entertainment industry... IMO tho.

 

@Lukcy86 I think you should decide who "won" by whichever song you like better.

For me, SKE "wins" this time...

 

Well, good if no/less ske fan celebrating this 'win by number'. I will too.