Nah, K-Idols are dating secretly (prolly some masternim and ssasaeng know the relationship) until Dispatch caught them. Even most of idols from same agency are dating each other. So, yeah, RKJ isn't exist in K-Idol world. But still, they date secretly so that their fans will be not riot because fans don't like it. Also masternim throwing luxury gift or making limited edition boarding pass with their bias' face or an apartment full with luxury furniture is basically same with Inapooh guy throwing 50k votes to certain girl *ahem* or Obamina wota selling his mansion. All of them use money to gain attention from their idol. Nah, the problematic girl is backed up by guy who is related with yakuza so Also, if she moves to NMB then she still belongs to HoriPro, not with Yoshimoto/Showtitle. Anyway, Namba girls will welcome her happily with dissing her until her grads #sarcasm. I remember when she won #1 in pre-eliminary ssk again, Nagi and Miru jokingly said that she either cheated or had "sugar daddy". It's usual thing in J-Entertainment world. You can read @sdn48oshi's explanation Not really. At this moment NGT (+ AKS) in Japan is like YG in Korea. Hated by public, sponsors are leaving, have shady scandal, but somehow are backed up by mafia/yakuza. Plus, both of them handled scandals very poorly. At this moment NGT's future is almost none. Only Ogiyuka-Ayakani-Gatanee wota who are believed NGT will be survived. Please discuss about SKE in SKE's general discussion. EDITED: add more answers
What an absurd thing to say. Suda has been an idol for 10 years, including during the dark times of SKE where all the rumours of this kind of stuff happening take place. She's known both the public and private faces of hundreds of idols and industry people, perhaps as well as fans. She's far more qualified to "understand what Maho has gone through", and what the rest of NGT is going through, than anyone posting here. Including (especially) anyone who believes that simply being a fellow victim gives them more insight. She may even understand better than Maho herself what the outcome will be. Grow up. It's not that hard to understand how someone else feels, especially if you share so much other life experience. And even then it doesn't make a difference, because feelings don't change reality. Only your perception of it. Why are you taking it as something negative? Did you read the rest of the article and what it concluded from Suda's statement (which it didn't dispute)? That AKS, presumably knowing her emotional needs, failed to properly provide for them?
Good thing to see someone finally throwing in these two names together. Guess who Kachosu (the guy infamous for selling his house in order to vote for Obamina, previously known for being featured on TV back in the "golden days" of AKB as the guy wasting all his entire salary on AKB48) happens to be close friends with... Spoiler (guy next to Kachosu is none other than Kitagawa Jo, guy on the other photo is Gori aka Fumiharu-kun, one of the masked "reporters" on Bunshun live broadcasts) Also guess who was in Nakai's team at the (correction: first) bowling competition, on the same event in which Gatanee's team was reportedly completely occupied by Inapooh and his yakkai pals...: https://twitter.com/0846sama_/status/1099465834039107584 Speaking of funny connections...
@Cisalpine88 I just made fairly analogy between two worlds! Funfact: Both of Inapooh and Yoshimoto are allegedly affiliated with Yamaguchi-gumi (#1). But seems like NMB girls have zero interest with Ogiyuka so...
That's a video from the first bowling competition, held in July, not the second, held in November. Nakai's team didn't bowl during the second one, they played cards. I also think some people on 5ch have been saying that Kachosu might have something to do with Yabushita Fu's hiatus after it was announced, but I only skimmed the threads so I have no idea if there's anything to that.
Both that tweet and that article are about the first bowling competition (2018-07-29). The second was on 2018-11-18, about two weeks after the quote block at the top of the matome article ends. Also, it's not like there was extreme competition for tickets to either event... Inapooh's interest in her is also often overstated. If it wasn't he'd have deleted her from his profile the same as he did another member when the heat really started building up. https://twitter.com/inapooh0725/status/1108981689529696258 That said, he's complained in the past about NMB, both the members and difficulties in pursuing his usual line of "work" in Osaka, so maybe Namba would be a safer destination for some of these girls.
I remember he tried stalking NMB KKS recently (was she Aicha?) for getting her home address but he failed Maybe for some "purely innocent" girls it's safer because its secure feeling (not saying NMB's management is better than AKS tho), but for her(?) case since she belongs to HoriPro, she still have more works in Tokyo hence she will have less time in Osaka. Also, I doubt NMB girls and wota will accept her if it happens
how is any of this relevant here? what right has someone who hasn't been accosted at her door by at least two men and had her mouth covered got to say of someone who has she worries too much? and to what end? i'm going to disregard most of what you said and just say (to everyone) what was touched on before: be wary of anyone within aks' sphere of influence who are still allowed to answer questions relating to this case in the public arena.
April 6 (Sat) http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/317 Instagram following/unfollowing drama: Tano/Nakai vs. Maho. Ogino denied rumors of members transfering to other groups. She also said to be careful of alleged "members" leaks. Tanaka Hidetomi about deleted abematimes article. Ogiyuka lost 10k followers since her peak. Murakumo photo log update + mobame. Sugahara mobame where she says she'll be wearing matching clothes with Hasegawa during the next day's handshake event. Wezzy article: A storm of criticism towards NGT48's Ogino Yuka.
For those interested, this is a translation of a thread with a rundown of the replies from Hayakawa's Q&A booth at today's handshake event, as collected around Twitter. The comments below are from the thread's author, not that I don't agree with them wholly anyway. https://twitter.com/ck04400/status/1114777117575667712 ①早川は山口さんとは2回しか会ってない。 ① Hayakawa has met with Yamaguchi-san only two times so far. →相変わらず全然コミュニケーション取ってない。AKSの言う「コミュニケーション」が口からでまかせなのがよくわかります。 → As per usual, they aren't even attempting at establishing a communication. It's easy to tell that the "communication" AKS talks about is just a word they say out of instinct. 早川が山口さんと会ったタイミング This makes the occasions Hayakawa has ever met with Yamaguchi-san: ・1回目 2/28以前(2/28に新潟日報が記事にしています) ・First time: Before 2/28 (since Niigata Nippo published that article on February 28) ・2回目 報告書を手渡しした時(恐らく3/20) ・Second time: Once the research report was handed over to her (arguably by March 20) ②スタッフもだれも解雇していない ② None in the staff will face dismissal. ③民事訴訟は準備してます。 ③ We are making preparations for a civil lawsuit. →事件発生から3か月以上経った3/21の時点で「検討」、事件発生からほぼ4か月経った4/7の時点でまだ「準備」。本当に準備してるの？どうせお得意の口からでまかせでしょう。 → By March 21, over three months after the incident took place, it was "we are considering". By April 7, almost four months after the incident took place, it remains "we are preparing". Are they even preparing at all? Or is it again words they say out of instinct, which is their speciality. ④現状メンバーとのコミニケーションはSNS中心にとっている。 ④ At present the communication with the members is happening mainly through social media →直接会って話せよ、なにを怠けているんだ。 → Just meet and talk to them directly already? What are you procrastinating for? ⑤公演はまだ全員の賛同はとれず、開始の目処立たず。公演については十人十色、本間日陽ソロ共に準レギュラー化したい、他にも16人公演以外は新たな考えがある。 ⑤ For the theater shows, there isn't a consensus from everyone involved, so there's no date set for restarting yet. About the shows, we want to turn things like Juu-nin Too-iro or Honma Hinata's solo into semi-regular performances, there are new ideas other than 16-member theater shows. →相変わらず事件解決への努力をせずに公演再開でなし崩しに通常営業に戻す気ですね 。 → As per usual, they aren't putting any effort into resolving the incident, with the intention being only to return back to normal business piece by piece by restarting the theater shows. ⑥春のライブフェスは出演メンバー不明、みんな出たくないわけじゃない。 ⑥ It's not clear who'll be at the Spring Live Festival yet, this is not to say there are no members willing to perform. ⑦ショールームに関しては早期に再開させてあげたいが、コメントが心配。 ⑦ Regarding Showroom, we want to restart it soon, but we are worried about the comments. →なんで事件解決よりも通常営業に戻すことを優先して考えているんだ？ → Why always giving priority to returning back to regular business over resolving the incident, when considering things? ⑧スポンサーについては、メンバーの心を合わせて公演をスタートさせて信頼を回復してもらってから、各企業にお話を持っていく。 ⑧ Regarding the sponsors, after bringing all members' minds into agreement, we'll restart the theater performances and once trust is thus restored, we'll go on to talk with the various business companies →AKS(早川)の認識は「事件解決＝信頼回復」ではなく、「公演再開＝信頼回復」なわけね。こりゃ信頼回復なんて無理だわ。 → And so for AKS (in the person of Hayakawa) the mindset is not "Resolving the incident = Regaining credibility", but "Restaring theater shows = Regaining credibility", huh. This way regaining credibility is a hopeless cause.
Its like they are afraid of solving the incident...... maybe the attackers or some related members has some scary backing, well, with how scared the management is, we will never know
doesn't it feel like aks is deliberately trying to kill ngt? everything they've done so far is bad decision after another
April 7 (Sun) http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/318 Handshake Event. (10 sub items) Nishigata mobame included two-shot picture with Nara Miharu. (corrected) Hayakawa manager room. (10 sub items) Another round of vertical reading messages from January was found. Edit: Correction.
I don't know how much I should trust this, but if it's true, well damn I have no words... it would explain why they don't even try to solve this case...
The website for the 'AKB48 Group Spring LIVE Festival in Yokohama Stadium' has been updated with news of 'side events' where fans can meet and interact with members - but not with anyone from NGT48: https://www.akb48.co.jp/lp/spring_fes2019/ (scroll down to the second schedule in the section headed 'Timetable')
Spoiler: April 8 (Mon) April 8 (Mon) http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/321 Story of Imamura holding Maho back for two years. "Yamaguchi works hard when she's in the back." Ogino insta story. Sankei article about NGT's blank schedule and how no one is in charge of the case. Nishigata mobame: "I don't want to lose the place where I can meet everyone." NGT vanished from the events of the spring festival. Still scheduled for live show. Fuji TV AKB48 Group Shutchou Kaigi, where NGT was next, went from undecided to SKE going to Akihabara. NHK "inspection" program tomorrow: "NGT48, 3 months of confusion." Internet drama about a Yamaguchi anti. J-Cast article about Ogiyuka apologizing for losing her voice during the handshake event. Yahoo news over 1600 comments. Real Live article about Ogino crying during the handshake event. April 9 (Tue) http://40298ch.com/test/read.cgi/karakoro/1548413013/324 NHK Niigata: NGT48, 3 months of confusion. Fukuoka Mentai Wide about the NGT crisis. The Yamaguchi anti who was stealing other people's content apologizes in a tweet. Some of his anti buddies locked/deleted their twitter accounts. Nishigata now has less followers than Yamada. Inaoka tweeted about the NGT salaries. ================================= There are people currently trying to campaign against the yakkai right now. https://twitter.com/5chmahooyabun/status/1115224901462319104 Edits: Campaign, April 9 added.
interesting thread here on a report by niigata nhk https://twitter.com/qc_bb/status/1115624773055385601?s=19
Video here: Clips are also availble here piece by piece https://twitter.com/test84616661/status/1115659295431974912 That turned out to be a pretty interesting special (the correct title of which is "NGT48 issue, 3 months after coming to light", by the way) which also proves that the Niigata region itself is the one most concerned about getting at the bottom of the issue, not to mention the most critical of all about what sort of agency (AKS) they have to deal with. Not for nothing, one of the things brough up right from the beginning is how "Almost nothing is known about the true nature of the organization". I'll skip the first part since it should be clear already, but it shows pretty much a rapid yet to-the-point overview of the case up until the fateful press conference, while pointing out the criticism received from fans and group associates regarding their response. In between, step by step, there's Maho's original confession on Twitter, the (forced) apology at the theater, the initial conference (made to coincide with the Coming of Age Ceremony in Tokyo), the establishment of the third-party committee (let's call them so, shall we...), et cetera. At the end, of course, there's a mention of how government and companies are "distancing themselves from NGT" (and this is stated pretty clearly), with tie-up contracts and shows being terminated or otherwise suspended, all the while even the theater performances themselves are on a hold with no opening date set for restarting yet. --- Some of the opinions of people on the street were then displayed: "Why are they dragging things on for so long, is what I am wondering I wish they'd say the truth plain and clean, but they strike me as trying to dissimulate everything. Those people who attended the press conference, they should talk a little more in detail." "As it is now, the facts about today's incident are vague and not clearly understandable. I believe they should've better said who is supposed to take the responsabilities. I have to wonder if they (NGT48) will disband if things keep on at this rate." --- Cutting to the studio part, the hosts opened by pointing out that the estrangement between Maho and the management is only growing after this, rather than diminishing. This whole controversy also caused to higlight there are problems with the internal governance of AKS. A list of these dubious points was then presented by a guest journalist expert, Fukuishi Keiichirou: - "On the day after the incident which saw certain fans breaking into Yamaguchi Maho's own house, a communication was issued to board director Matsumura. Despite that, the problem response was left all to the duties of the theater manager at the time." [note: this indirectly exposes the "mail" that Bunshun showed during its first livestream as false, or at the very least doctored so as to make Imamura look like an active part in the handling of the issue, when he actually wasn't. It also shows that communication went the actual opposite as what the "mail" suggests. To know what I'm talking about, here's a translation of the letter I once did upon request...] - "The apology to the fans and the parties concerned was entrusted entirely to the victim herself, Yamaguchi, with the executive body refusing to take their accountability." - "As for the research report from the third-party committee, AKS presented an explanation of that all on their own at the conference. Also, all the while Yamaguchi personally gave a rebuttal of it, they nonetheless came to the conclusion that they couldn't determine any involvement by the members." - "Lastly, the management's top, that is CEO Yoshinari, didn't show up anywhere in public." "With such things, it was full of anomalous situations, one can say." --- Program host: "I'd like to raise just one issue point. This time we are looking at things in terms of governance, and with governance itself failing to function, I'm curious to know about what the company, AKS, itself is like..." Fukuishi: "To tell the truth, about what AKS itself is like, it's hard to understand from the public documentation alone. However, by reading about matters related to the executive directors from the research report of the third-party committee, as well as from other public documentation released by other companies, we are now able to understand the actual management organization of AKS." Cue the following list: - AKS direction board - Chief director: Yoshinari Natsuko Coming from a pachinko-maker company [note: during the explanation, it was clearly said it's Kyoraku], holds 100% of AKS's stocks [making her basically the "owner" of the whole organization] Managing director: Oomura Takuya Coming from a movie-making company [note: unnamed but "from Tokyo", as the explanation said] , handling the management planning and financial accounting Director: Matsumura Takumi Coming from a TV broadcasting company [note: Fuji TV], handling all of the management duties Director: Terada Akihiro Coming from a music label company [note: Avex], handling overseas projects Supervisor/Auditor: Akita Hideyoshi Previous experience as a director of a game-making company Another graph was then shown, explaining all that the direction board is in control of: In other words (from right to left): AKB48 management department HKT48 management department NGT48 management department Performances department Content business department License development department Overseas projects department Publicity department CEO offices Direction board offices Administration department Out of the NGT48 mangement, they then moved to display the role organization within NGT more in detail. "Falling under the NGT management department, there's a management group proper and a theater group. The one who coordinates everything is the theater general manager. The theater general manager stipulates a business trust agreement with AKS, but inside of the research report of the third-party committee it is not made clear what role or what power he is entrusted with. Nor anything is made clear regarding whose control and supervision he is supposed to work under, as it has been pointed out. This fact that it isn't specified anything about the roles and the responsibilities inside of the organization represents somewhat of AKS's peculiarity, by now. For one thing, even board director Matsumura, who held that press conference, was subjected to a penalty with salary reduction. Well, with the haphazard response by board director now becoming a central issue, while they work on remedying to the situation, it all means to me there's problems even in terms of company's governance." --- Another issue that is brought up is about the fact that, with any people commonly associating Akimoto with AKB's image, the fact that Akimoto hasn't ever showed up to make any kind of declaration is regarded as dubious. Fukuishi again replied: "At the press conference, director Matsumura told something along the lines that AKS holds all the rights when it comes to management, while Akimoto is handling the creative parts, such as providing music, while he has no hands in the organization's management. However, regarding today's issue, it was also revealed by director Matsumura that Akimoto, on top of being reportedly worried, rebuked him to be considerate about the care of the members. The very fact that Akimoto, someone considered to have no powers in the organization's management, would go on to rebuke a top executive, represents in itself a problem from the angle of agency governance." --- The last issue was brought up to an expert in company governance, lawyer Wakatsuki Yoshihiro, who replied the following: "That there would be some other person who would rebuke the board director that is holding that press conference leaves questions as to whether things are actually working in terms of governance." "In an ordinary situation, when in a position subjected to supervision, this would be from a chief director -- or one's own superior. When any control and supervision orders come from someone (Akimoto) other than them, then the governance is cast into question even more." "Who inside that company makes the decisions, and who takes up the responsabilities? Wasn't that one a remark that made any of this vague and unclear? A remark like that only put people around them into a suspicious mood." --- Final closing words by the studio hosts: Host: "As I see, even from the standpoint of an expert this looks weird, isn't it..." Fukuishi: "After receiving lots of criticism from many of the parties concerned, with fans on top, AKS hasn't yet clarified about what their plans are on which way to strengthen their governance from here on. All things said, the management top, CEO Yoshinari, and the group producer Akimoto, are asked to come forward and explain which way they'll work into revising governance."
