Single AKB48 36th [Labrador Retriever] 14/05/21

Short comment to trinu. Yes she was theoretic in JKT but practically in AKB. She was not doing anything in JKT except for minor visits since summer. And who decides where she was?

In HS Mocchi are often doing better than Akicha but she are mostly doing far better than Kitarie, Umechan and Miichan. If you say that Akicha are going down I only wonder how you explain her rise in votes 2013?

Btw, neither Mocchi nor Kitarie has captain roles for now. But I have no intentions to discuss the issue with a hater so you don't need to answer.

 

For the gazillionth time, everybody got more votes.
Last year, votes came with the theatre edition. The theatre edition is cheaper. If it's cheaper, fans can buy more votes. If they can buy more votes, everyone gets more votes.

Take Nakanishi Yuka's case:

2012: She was 63rd with 5,592 votes
2013: She was 64th with 11,602 votes.

Is it that difficult to understand?

By the time the new single comes out, they will be (co)captains. Better?
And again, I'm no hater. I just can't stand closemindness and paranoia.

 

She did minor visits unlike Harugon who mostly stayed in Jakarta. That's one of the main reasons why Akicha wasn't really liked by Indonesian fans (including me).

Her rise in 2013 was of course the effect of cheaper voting ballots which you could get in theater ver (which is 600 yen cheaper!)

 

I am not fan of Akicha but I really doubt it was Akicha decisions not to stay in Jakarta. Unlike Harugon, Akicha probably has more commitment in Japan which makes her have to go back to Japan and stay in Japan for most of the times rather than in Jakarta. Even if it is not fully because of work commitment, most of Akicha`s (or probably Harugon`s too) depends largely on their agency.With little time in Jakarta, it is expected that Akichs has slight difficulty to blend with JKT crowd. In fact, with that little time, dont you think Akicha do quite well? Seriously, people should stop comparing Akicha and Harugon. They are just different cases altogether. When in Japan, probably Harugon has relatively little work, hence she has nothing to lose if she decides to fully immersed in JKT. But Akicha is different. IMO, Akicha was in much more difficult situation than Harugon.

 

Of course you are right. It was AKS and probably Watanabe which were the reason for making her go forth and back 14 times during her first 6 month in JKT. JOT had nothing to say, neither herself.

And popularity? I'm following her twitter and she got about 800 new followers each day, half of them indonesians. A year after she left Jakarta. I prefer facts.

Kan we leave Akicha now?

 

Sure, cause you only read what you want to read and ignore the facts people give you.

Thanks for the mp3 rip, obakechan! Now I can listen to it everywhere.

 

I like how we're tagging Labrador Retriever as the "dog" single,,
I hope the MV has this dog pov that's reminiscent of Ponytail to Shushu.
As for the song, it didn't pump me up or gave that summer feel instantly...though after a few listens I was humming "Baby love"...guess it's another "wait til it grows" on you single.

I was thinking it would've been brave of management to put Paruru as center for this single, after the subtle hint from MSM PV. But they decided to play it safe by sticking with Mayuyu as center. No problems since Jurina is upfront and as for Sasshi, she is last year's center after all.

I hope the B-sides will be good. Can't wait to see what the new teams will bring!! Mostly excited for the new Team K. I hope they get a kick-ass song. And I wonder how Ikoma Rina will fare in Team B. Will Paruru be center for Team A? I have to get used to seeing Yuria as an AKB member now too..

 

I'm confused about the center of this single. The news stories I've seen claim that Mayuyu is the center, but in that performance that was posted earlier in this thread (and which has been taken down) it really seemed like Mayuyu, Sasshi and Jurina were in the same row. And judging by other comments in this thread I wasn't the only one to think that. So were we all just seeing things? Or is it possible for a member to be in the same row as the center and not be considered a center herself?

 

Yes of course. The center is the middle of the row. 0 position. Sasshi and Jurina are indeed in the same front row with her, but it's not considered a triple center officially (apparently). I can't actually think of a whole lot of instances where the group was arranged in a pyramid formation with the center only at the front, either.

 

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I thought the center position is in the most front zero-position? The ones beside that position are obviously not center (unless we're in the Nogizaka world)

 

Well, I think there are exceptions to that rule too. Anything with a double or triple center, obviously both can't be on 0 position. UZA, So Long!, etc. Trying to recall if anyone was in between Jurina and Yuuko in UZA...

 

Tomochin was. In the second row but right in the middle of the dance formation.

 

Center is position 0 on stage, so it's mayuyu. In many many 48G songs center sings along with 2 other girls in the same row. (if it's a solo center that is, Wcenter is different)
In so long it could be said that it's a 3-ppl center, but they were rotating position, so that each got to stand in position 0, but here Sasshi, Jurina and Mayu don't rotate position, so it's just Mayu-center

*in case of Wcenter, the person who stands in position 0 in the second row is the secret center, like what Sasshi is in HKT

 

One of the problems AKB has is to not seem a cliche of itself. When everything seems overly contrived rather than natural, contrived acted smiles and cuteness...whereas good acting will make it all seem spontaneous and genuine.

Many of these girls need to go back to acting/cuteness/smiling school to learn how to make themselves seem spontaneous and genuinely in the moment. Looking at some of the old hands you can seen they have been there too long....just going through the motions..when they should be setting the standard. Maybe they should go back and look at some earlier AKB stuff...before they became household names.

And those shorts under the dresses look terrible..though they are there for modesty....wish they would rethink that method as well.

Still like the song ....though still think it needs some beefing up mid way.

 

Just a short comment. It would be a better debate climate if everybody don't was so eager to display their own thoughts of how management rules AKB. My point is, NOBODY REALLY KNOWS, and that's because management never explain their actions. Therefor one speculation is as good or bad as the others and nobody can use their own speculation for telling that another speculation is wrong. Sit on your hands and let other people write what they want or write what you think are right without attacking others.

 

Yeah, but some of your speculations are wrong and you just close your eyes to the facts presented to you and keep on with your "Akicha is bullied" nonsense.

 

I can't get enough of that chorus. [clap]

Unfortunately, I have to agree.

 

Can't say I love it (yet), but it's nice.
Thanks to those of you who posted links!

 

can we officially call akicha "puffin" on stage48 forever? that is the single funniest thing i've seen all day

in all honesty, though, we have to accept that for many of the mid-gen girls, their heyday has come and gone. once upon a time, akicha was the new, fresh, pushed talent. remember how quickly she was promoted to a full member of team A? that time has gone, and while nobody likes to see their oshimen's push end, that's the nature of the beast. maybe they think that kitarie has more to offer? nobody knows. and what about girls like maeda ami? she's practically in the same boat (although i'm hoping that the fact that she's only 18 and got moved back to team A means they want to push her a little bit again ).

anyways, about the actual single - it's weird that this could potentially be milky and rena's last "regular" akb senbatsu and I want to see more of them! also management will never cease to confuse me - like they knock yukirin in the back for mae shika mukanee and then they decide she's relevant again for this single? lastly, i have to agree with a lot of the other posters in this thread - the song was in my head when i woke up this morning, and I like humming it. very sweet summery song!