Stage48 Wiki - Organization & Discussion

@moomookan , that's fine with me, take your time. I just thought it doesn't look really neat and should get updated.

Another thing, since profile picture can't be added to the member pages for various reasons, would it be possible to create a "Profile Picture Gallery" in the respective team gallery, or would this still cause copyright problems?
My first thought was adding them to the existing original post -next to their debut picture with a mark (e.g. 2021)- but I think that only the og poster can edit that post.

 

Personally, I think no periods is best for the trivia sections. Otherwise, we may get unnecessary periods at the ends of clauses or in random trivia points like "Favorite food: ramen."
I think it looks messy if some lines have periods at the end while others don't, so I think it's best to just not add them at the end of each line.

For the "History" sections of the members and for the Trivia sections outside the regular member pages (ex. on song pages, single pages, etc.) I think using the periods at the end of each line is appropriate.

Curious about what @Mana thinks

 

With the announcement of Nogizaka's new album, I wanted to bring up another grammatical question: I realize that in Japanese, these albums are called "best album"s. However, in English the term is "best-of album" or "greatest hits album". Should we stay with "best album"? Or switch to "best-of album"? It seems "best album" has been the wiki48 standard for a while.

 

@moomookan I agree with @moomookan on this. Periods in the trivia seem unnecessary to me, unless used in a quote.

@moomookan I also feel like it should be "Best of Album". But in this case, shouldn't it be "Single Collection Album", since all of them are included and that's what this album is mostly about?

- http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Tano_Yuka
Tano Yuka is missing a "u" in her name (Tano Yuuka)


- I noticed that some dates are missing/wrong on the "AKB48 Members" page ( http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/AKB48_Members ). You might add/change them + the dates on the member pages.
I got the information from this website ( https://48pedia.org/AKB48のオーディション ), I don't know how much to trust this wiki, so it's your decision.

2nd Gen
Members passed the audition on February 26th, 2006
Debuted on April 1st, 2006

3rd Gen
Members passed the audition on December 3rd, 2006
Debuted on April 8th, 2007

4th Gen
Members passed the audition on May 27th, 2007

10th Gen
Members passed the audition on March 21st, 2010

12th Gen
Members were announced on April 3rd, 2011

14th Gen
Members passed the audition on May 13, 2012
(Final selection was from June 15-17, they made their debut on July 9th)
I don't know which date should be used.


- More member pages using the old template, please update them. [#2]:

That's it for now. Thank you

 

Actually, the spelling of her name was changed to Tano Yuka in the past (removing the other u) because this is how she officially writes it herself on all her social medias. and I recently helped to fix all the remaining 'Tano Yuuka' that were on wiki48 so that it can be written the same everywhere, haha.

Hmm I've been thinking about this before and it's true that when there is more than one sentence in Trivia, it's weird to have periods except for the last sentence. Personally I think that when there's a list (like 'Favorite foods:') then there shouldn't be a period after. But for other trivias, maybe there should be periods... if we take the example by @moomookan earlier:

* First member on the moon
* Her father is Steven Spielberg.
* She once visited the Great Wall of China with her middle school class. There, she met Leonardo di Caprio.
* Likes reading and watching Netflix

I think there are 2 options, either this is edited to be like:

* First member on the moon
* Daughter of Steven Spielberg
* Once visited the Great Wall of China with her middle school class, met Leonardo di Caprio there
* Likes reading and watching Netflix

Or it could be edited to be like:

* She is the first member on the moon.
* Her father is Steven Spielberg.
* She once visited the Great Wall of China with her middle school class. There, she met Leonardo di Caprio.
* She likes reading and watching Netflix.

So really it depends on what people here prefer, but personally I prefer the second option.

So I think something like this would be good (just a fake example):

Admired members: Takahashi Minami, Kojima Haruna, Itano Tomomi
Favorite foods: Chocolate, pasta, sushi
Hobbies: Reading, singing, listening to music
* She is the first member on the moon.
* Her father is Steven Spielberg.
* She once visited the Great Wall of China with her middle school class. There, she met Leonardo di Caprio.
* She likes reading and watching Netflix.

Not sure if we can all agree on the same thing, haha.

 

I also like the second method @Mana proposed. Turning clauses/fragments into complete sentences reads nicely to me.

 

Definitely not Singles Collection Album, since not all of these albums are strictly composed of singles. For Keyaki's Best Album, for example, they had coupling songs from albums. This will probably be the case for Nogi's upcoming one as well.
I think simply calling them "Best Albums" is fine, since that's the term that they use in Japan for such albums. We could also write "xx is the 1st Best album (or 'Greatest hits album') released by xx." when writing the general info for the entries, but I don't think it's necessary. I went with "Greatest hits album" since that's the title of the page on Wikipedia, and I think it just sounds better than "Best-of". In the album charts, we should keep it as "BEST" in the # column or else it will become too crowded, but I guess for AKB you could write "BEST 01" (with 01 in the next line) since they have several at this point.
I do think we should keep the original Japanese term "Best album" at least somewhere in the entry page though.

@Mana Your option two works with me. Just don't add periods at the end of lists. I will probably only work on the phrasing when I come across it, since our wiki standard has been no periods across most pages so it's a lot to take on.

 

Change Chiba Erii's agency to Juus.

https://juus-k-k.com/chiba-erii

And add the link to Yoko's: https://juus-k-k.com/yokoyama-yui

 

I definitely agree on no periods in lists.

Indeed, I like @Mana's second option as well! Some multi-sentence trivias might be difficult to change into clauses, but it's easier the other way around.

I initially thought of just reordering the Trivia so clause trivias were at the top and sentence trivias were at the bottom. This would lessen the number of sentences that repetitively start with "She"/"It"/"This", but even so, this will only be aethetically pleasing if the clauses are short. Besides, a little repetitiveness and being less brief is an okay tradeoff for overall consistency, I think.

Edit: I'm gonna try to update infoboxes too though I've only done one so far
I noticed that there are commas in most of the infobox debut and graduation dates ("Month YYYY" format), which is pretty unconventional? I hope it's okay that I change them as I go.

 

Ah, let me continue doing this since I've been taking the opportunity to update the members info like SNS and agencies as well. I appreciate it though

 

I noticed this too, it's like this on majority of pages. I thought about changing it but I wasn't sure if everyone would agree... Since you're saying it now, I guess we can make it a rule that if it's just month+year then there is no need for a comma, but if it's month+day+year then a comma is necessary between the day and year. if we all agree to this then we can start changing it for all pages in their debuts/graduations categories. ^^

 

Oh! Alright then, I'll leave them in your capable hands ^_^

Alrighty! I'll be waiting for everyone's thoughts on it

 

I would go with -October 2021 / October 27, 2021- since that's how I learned it back in school and I can't remember ever seeing a comma written between a month-year combination

 

Maybe I'm late to the discussion, but I'm in favour of leaving it as "best album" because that's what they call it in Japan. If we go by what we would use in the west, then you could also argue that we should call AKB48's singles "EPs" or "mini albums", because technically, a single refers to one song, and not a main song with b-sides included. And I'm against calling them EPs

 

MNL48
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/MNL48

• MNL48 Events
  • MNL48 Miss Hallohalloween entry needs to be replaced with MNL48 1st Miss HalloHalloween.
  • MNL48 2nd Miss HalloHalloween was held on October 29, 2021.

Maria Jamie Beatrice Alberto
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Maria_Jamie_Beatrice_Alberto

• Change "won MNL48's Miss HalloHalloween" to "was crowned as MNL48's 1st Miss HalloHalloween"
• Announced to have a regular Spotify podcast titled "Jamie's Cat Nap" on October 8, 2021. Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/6KRSU7R8jErIGrz64woRMu

Shekinah Arzaga
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Shekinah_Arzaga

• Hosted MNL48's 1st Miss HalloHalloween with Aubrey Ysabelle Delos Reyes on October 31, 2020.
• Hosted MNL48's 2nd Miss HalloHalloween with Francese Therese Pinlac on October 29, 2021.

Aubrey Ysabelle Delos Reyes
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Aubrey_Ysabelle_Delos_Reyes

• Hosted MNL48's 1st Miss HalloHalloween with Shekinah Arzaga on October 31, 2020.

Francese Therese Pinlac
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Francese_Therese_Pinlac

• Hosted MNL48's 2nd Miss HalloHalloween with Shekinah Arzaga on October 29, 2021.

Jemimah Caldejon
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Jemimah_Caldejon

• Announced to have a regular Spotify podcast titled "Since 1999" on October 8, 2021. Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/0aWASAHTV74tU91yrsIM5J

Dian Marie Mercado
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Dian_Marie_Mercado

• Announced to have a regular Spotify podcast titled "Kwento Dian, Kwento Doon" on October 8, 2021. Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/1Ej9k8NoZoldmDSQ8UGu1E

Cristine Jan Elaurza
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Cristine_Jan_Elaurza

• Announced to have a regular Spotify podcast titled "Feel 'N Seek" on October 8, 2021. Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/3l17zTuFTrU75oJiTIPaSP

Ella Mae Amat
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Ella_Mae_Amat

• Announced to have a regular Spotify podcast titled "Ella Vision" on October 8, 2021. Link: https://open.spotify.com/show/3VtJL4dayTzYoJtbpUVfRU

Dana Leanne Brual
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Dana_Leanne_Brual

• Was crowned as MNL48's 2nd Miss HalloHalloween on October 29, 2021.

 

I've a query about the NGT48 member list pages of which there appears to be two:

http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/NGT48_Members
http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/NGT48.

In the first one Ogino Yuka and Nishigata Marina are shown as Draft members but in the second one they're shown as 1st Generation. If that's how the pages are meant to work then that's fine but to me it seems rather strange?

EDIT: For clarification, the second URL has a full stop (period) in it which I think is not being included in the link, it should be 'stage48.net/wiki/index.php/NGT48.' so that bolded text would need to be copied and pasted into a browser. Here's a screenshot of the page:

 

Yuka and Marina joined NGT48 through the draft, but the website lists them as part of the 1st Generation. Not sure why cause they do have a 3rd Draft section.

 

After the scandal the teams were dissolved and they were all regrouped as 1st Generation and kenkyuusei regardless of their origins, isn't that right?

 

Yes, it does say in the page on the first link "Ogino Yuka and Nishigata Marina are often considered as NGT48 1st generation members". It doesn't bother me either way but I just thought I'd flag it as a possible discrepancy between the two pages I linked to.