u know I was in the camp of just transferring the girls or maybe really trying to salvage NGT with training and a new system so another "Maho" won't happen again, but it really seems like a terribly toxic place to work at. I mean we know bullying happens and such at all the 48-groups, but NGT has like taken all of that and leveled up. Katomina's incident really made it clear that maybe a lot of the girls within the group are against Maho and that's so heartbreaking in a way cause you would never want to be attacked like the way Maho was. And it's probably why i kept mentioning how strong Rena and Riko are cause they knew they risked their jobs here too. So yea I agree with you here. And I hope they have like an embargo where these girls can't re-apply to the 48-groups for future generations (just the bad ones...cause management knows who is who I'm sure)
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Wow so Katomina’s uncle actually resigned. Well then I goes a huge portion of their “protection”. Maybe we will actually start to see the members involved and management face actual consequences now. Unlikely, but it’s still more possible than it ever was in the past.
I heard about Kato's uncle but not more than that... I guess if it was actually related to NGT it would have been wrote here already, but just to be sure, some news reported the cause of his resignation?
if you have to do metaphors, the most accurate one for what mahon has done is shine a light on a bad situation.
Not necessarily. You might not like a person but why would that stop one of your friends from liking them? Multiple of my friends don't get along with each other. I'm not saying that it was definitely someone from his group but I wouldn't say it's unlikely either I disagree on all levels. Giving out someone's personal information, such as address, should not be legal. You never know what the other person might do with that information. Even if the girls involved had good intentions (but what good intentions could they have, really?), they should still be held liable for treating private information so negligently. I am utterly confused why you continue to try and take blame off some of the girls. You seem to have this idea that you're the only sane one here and everyone who believes that, maybe, some people are just awful and would go to the lengths of hurting someone else intentionally exist, is crazy. But some people are evil, and some people will intentionally hurt others – that includes cute and pretty idol girls. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but mean people exist.
There you go. Not hard to imagine how someone as Nanako would be bothered by the fact that punishing someone by demoting them to Kenkyuusei, of all things, only gives Kenkyuusei an inferior connotation and nothing else. --- Before today's 23:00, when social media will be suspended, please spare some time to listen to what are my own personal thoughts as someone who has experienced a long period of time as a Kenkyuusei. "Ever since joining, the 3rd Draft members as well as the 2nd generation members, all of who are NGT48 Kenkyuuseis, are there constantly devoting all of their efforts as they strive on toward this objective that is to finally be promoted. This is something which, I would assume, even fans are aware of, not just myself. I imagine there are also people out there who aren't exactly familiar with this group's structure consisting of regular members and Kenkyuusei, though. But regardless, what I want as many people as possible to know is not this notion that «Kenkyuusei means a disadvantaged status», but rather about all those Kenkyuuseis who day after day keep working hard toward their rank promotion."
I guess my main point is that there isn't just one group of yakkai wota, and many of them don't like each other either. (That's where many of the early leaks exposing Inapooh's stalking ring came from.) There's two facts that need to be established (that katomina was connected to a wota, and that it was a wota from Inapooh's group), not just the one. Maybe, but there's still a huge difference between leaking information without thinking or being aware of the potential consequences, and doing so with full knowledge (conspiring). At the very least, someone who did the former will think twice about doing it again once they realise how dangerous it is. (There's also a difference between "Maho lives at 221 Baker St Suite B" and "Oh yeah she's right across the hall from me", which is entirely possible in this situation.) Yes, mean people exist, you only have to look at Katomina's mentions to see that. In fact, everyone is mean in some way. I don't expect the members were perfect angels behind the scenes, but I also can't fathom how some of you can so easily believe such serious accusations on such a flimsy basis, completely dismissing every alternative. They've done a lot of things wrong, but that isn't proof that they did all the other things too. Maybe they are guilty, I don't know. But you certainly don't either, nor the people lavishing hate on the members via social media or other avenues. (Even if they were guilty, that still wouldn't be okay.)
I haven't followed 48G (and 46G) as closely in the past year (with most of favorites graduating and life being hectic) but it's so depressing to see many of my NGT favorites end up this way. If NGT does disband, I hope girls like Tsugumin are transferred to other groups instead of a mass graduation or something.
Yamaguchi Maho removes all photos with members on her instagram account except Kitahara Rie's graduation photo
Manager Hayakawa sends out her first tweet https://twitter.com/hayakawamaiko/status/1131707197216268289
My translation of the summary from https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/music/29852/1553736787/ for 5/23 (Thursday). Please let me know if there are any mistakes! Yamaguchi Maho deletes all photos of NGT members from her Instagram. She leaves only a photo of Kitahara Rie. https://i.imgur.com/5kvaKTqr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yJwPSwo.jpg Imamura is covered in a Shukan Shincho article. It points out the many inconsistencies from his reckless lying. https://i.imgur.com/qvmMafC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RACTkoc.jpg On togetter: "The Shukan Shincho (the Daily Shincho) inspects the details of various private conversations with Imamura Etsuro" https://togetter.com/li/1358600 "It seems Rika's boyfriend and person "A" came to USJ with a timed admission code! That he really doesn't remember anything is a huge lie" https://i.imgur.com/NwqTvRB.jpg AKB group had a Live at USJ https://i.imgur.com/GgQ8b6a.jpg Inaoka and suspects - the links with Kitagawa and Imamura https://i.imgur.com/LsiUHYF.jpg Imamura, "Even if they commit crimes, you know it's just that they're so cute" https://i.imgur.com/eGejPGf.jpg Imamura, "Ah, I wonder whether or not I should go drink (with the gang) this time. They said let's go get a drink, and you know just between you and me, I'm winning them over" https://i.imgur.com/PGQfAvQ.jpg Bunshun: "Recording of previous NGT manager's voice, "Nakai is pitch black" - the truth of the idol hunter gang left to its own devices" https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/10568 "Imamura is full of lies. Since the time of SOLD-OUT he's been full of lies." (*SOLD-OUT is a company started by Akimoto Yasushi and Imamura) https://i.imgur.com/He4yt8h.jpg From Daily Shincho: "New confession from former manager at the tumultuous NGT48 - Denies collusion with the perpetrators of Yamaguchi Maho's assault" (more than 2700 comments) https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20190523-00562236-shincho-ent Summary of the campaign resulting from the combined efforts of AKS and Shincho during Maho's graduation https://i.imgur.com/xCqIt8l.jpg Inaoka's Twitter account is suspended [for Twitter rules' violations] https://i.imgur.com/wUSxvFm.jpg Kato Minami's Instagram exceeds 50k comments, becomes #1 in Japan https://i.imgur.com/sc6LNnH.jpg Bunshun will hold its "second AKB48 All-time Best General Election" So that Yamaguchi won't get 1st place, they include the condition: "Among all current and graduated members (members that made senbatsu)". Incidentally, in the first "All-time Best" there was no such condition, "all members that have been active in AKB groups" were available candidates https://i.imgur.com/sMMTikn.jpg From Bunshun: "We will do it ourselves!! We have decided to hold the "second AKB48 All-time Best General Election"" https://bunshun.jp/articles/-/11900 In the past, Inaoka said to Togasaki, "Did I get in unfairly again?" https://i.imgur.com/Peu6dNs.jpg Without ever being used, manager Hayakawa's Twitter account is now locked. [note, it now seems that was a prelude to her first tweets today] https://i.imgur.com/aUGTo9e.jpg Maho 'likes' the Cinnamon official account. 4 days left until the deadline for the Sanrio poll. In the mid-way results Hello Kitty was in 1st, Cinnamon in 2nd. https://i.imgur.com/HlRgTsn.jpg Group photo after the graduation performance https://i.imgur.com/w5NOF5l.png Part of a mobame from Takahashi Nanami, who appeared in the graduation performance, "Even though I couldn't mention these three senpai on SNS, I was troubled wondering if it was ok to post updates at all" https://i.imgur.com/CQt2a86.jpg Inaoka's "boss" Jurio posts, "Are the local big-shots ok with being connected to Katomina after her demotion? Her parents are enraged at the seeming popularity of the punishment, but..." https://i.imgur.com/9hv5Mcr.jpg Adastria's general shareholders meeting opens with the firestorm around the appointment of Ogino. The company director apologizes, "I am truly sorry for what happened" https://i.imgur.com/Sy64jQZ.jpg Comments that the general tone of the media has changed since some point in May https://i.imgur.com/TPre1Bj.jpg Nishigata sends a mobame saying, "I'm doing fine. While there are many things I want to tell you, I'm sorry but right now I can't say anything." NGT-related articles From Myjitsu: ""Lips sealed" in the midst of friendly fire! The circumstances surrounding NGT48's Kato Minami's demotion are complete and utter stupidity!" https://myjitsu.jp/archives/84081 From Yukan Fuji: "Entertainment activities to continue after graduation... the path Yamaguchi Maho should take - Firestorm over Kato Minami's inappropriate post, leads to suspension of members' SNS" https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20190523-00000009-ykf-ent From Sankei: "NGT48 - Even with Yamaguchi Maho's graduation there is no prospect for a fresh start - Management is coping with an ongoing series of backfires" https://www.sankei.com/smp/premium/news/190523/prm1905230009-s1.html From Nikkan Taishuu: "For Kato Koji, "it is difficult for NGT48 to continue" - There is much praise for his speech about Kato Minami's Instagram turmoil" https://taishu.jp/articles/-/65643?page=1 From Weekly Jitsuwa: "Punishment by demotion does not fit the huge firestorm surrounding NGT48's Kato Minami... "I can't support her anymore" "dejected" "excessively cruel..."" https://npn.co.jp/article/detail/51446798/ [some additional items just added] Two postscripts on the comment that the media's tone has changed since some time in May Motives behind the failure to prosecute Fixation over the reasons Maho chose certain members to participate [in her graduation stage] https://i.imgur.com/nAORXvM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FKPgZyI.jpg Nishigata's school yearbook photo is leaked https://i.imgur.com/VT0qqdP.jpg Nakai Rika closes her Instagram feed to comments
A couple of things.... 1) Make sure you are posting in the appropriate thread. This thread pertains to the incident with Mahohon and subsequent fallout. Other stuff should go into either the general NGT48 Thread, or the members' individual threads. 2) While we have no rule forbidding the use of profanity on this forum, I have noticed a recent uptick in the gratuitous use of these words specifically in this thread. So I am inviting you all to use better judgement going forward since in almost every case the use of s**t, f***, etc. has seemed entirely unnecessary. That is all...for now.
i cant believe.. i still remember that katomina had been mentioned as one of bullying victim instead of the bully..lmao. i guess after made known who is her father, everyone is sucked up to her including management. although she wasnt made as centre or as prominent members ( i mean she wasnt push in akb, just as front girl of ngt)
I just check out Mahohon's Instagram, she already deleted all photos, even Kitarie's one. I think she just doesn't want any relationship with NGT48 anymore, included ex-captain Renapon also deleted Instagram photos except which in grad stage
Mahohon has added a lot of photos from her graduation. Her Insta Story had video of the Kuroi Hitsuji performance as well as her twirling in her dress. Earlier today I noticed and liked a lot of the photos....however a few hours later I go to like (or rather, heart) the photos and it doesn't work. When I go to her profile it shows that there's no posts...So I don't know what's going on there. Unless she deleted them after posting them this morning.